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That could just as easily be turned on it's head too - if you don't need skilled (or any) staff to shop, cook, serve, and then washup, why would you ever NOT ea
by TylerE 2y ago
That could just as easily be turned on it's head too - if you don't need skilled (or any) staff to shop, cook, serve, and then washup, why would you ever NOT eat at home?
Especially if it can operate very quietly, one fairly slow robot could do probably all the housework, and could do it at night when it's literally out of sight and out of mind. It would feel like magic. You'd wake up every morning to a clean house and hot breakfast.
- closewith 2y agoMost people go to restaurants because of the social benefits, not the labour savings. The idea of people or groups of people siloing themselves into their ultra-convenient homes and never interact with others is a dystopia and a sure sign of an already broken community.
- exe34 2y agohey now, some of us are fed up being around other people.
- bongobingo1 2y agoIsn't that the predominant trend already? Since like, the 70s.
- netruk44 2y agoWell, that feels like a rather extreme jump to conclusions, and was certainly not something I thought the GP comment was even suggesting. I don't see any reason why people couldn't adjust from meeting friends at restaurants to hosting friends at home instead. (Unless, of course, your living space is limited) If you aren't cooking and cleaning up after, what's the difference between that and meeting someone at a restaurant?
- astura 2y agoI can think of some differences: 1) You get out of your house. 2) You don't have leftovers from a big meal to deal with. 3) You can duck out early without having to kick everyone out.. 4) you can fit a LOT more people at a restaurant.
- closewith 2y ago> If you aren't cooking and cleaning up after, what's the difference between that and meeting someone at a restaurant? I wonder if you realise how dystopian your life already is to consider this question reasonable. There is a difference between a co-located set of siloed people and a community. The inability to recognise this means your community is already broken.
- a_c_s 2y agoI don't understand the distinction you are making: two couples (4 people) meeting at a restaurant is, to me, equally social as one couple going to another couple's house to eat dinner.
- closewith 2y agoFour people in a public space interacting with the rest of the community is fundamentally different to four people in an isolated silo.
- TylerE 2y agoHaving to listen to some drunk two tables over matter away is not desirable community interaction. It’s nice to be able to carry on a conversation somewhere there isn’t a constant din.
- infecto 2y agoPerhaps that's true in your country, but not in the US. That said, the logic doesn't fully hold up. I can see it making sense if the goal were purely for the restaurant experience, but if I could replicate the food at home using a bot, I'd be inviting all my friends over to eat at my place instead. In the US, I think it would be hard to say that most people go to restaurants for social benefits.
- usrusr 2y ago> I'd be inviting all my friends over to eat at my place instead. Ironically, this reads to me like a rather American thing. Simply based on typical dwelling size. There's a lot of nights at a restaurant (or cheaper: some venue specializing in space + some catering for groups instead of the full restaurant experience) I could buy for the cost of keeping a dining room able to host a non-tiny group of friends around all year. In American sprawl, with those hardly-more-than-cardboard construction standards? Sure, no problem.
- infecto 2y ago> "hardly-more-than-cardboard construction standards" You are a silly person, what does this even have to do with cooking? Sorry America has got you so upset. Do you even have a counterpoint to what I said beyond your weird hate for America? Most of the places I have traveled and lived in around the world, most people are not going out to eat for socializing but for the elimination of the labor and time it takes to cook the same meal at home. Sure socialization can play a role but thats not the prime value.
- usrusr 2y agoIt's a dystopia all right, but one that is already very real. WFH is a reality for many, groceries to the door hasn't become mainstream yet but the supermarket might well be on the trajectory taken by book stores two decades earlier and people who don't attend outdoor or team sports can have surprisingly few occasions to leave home unless they go out of their way to find an excuse.
- aftbit 2y agoI'm in this dystopia: WFH, delivery groceries, delivery meals when I'm feeling lazy. If I didn't have a dog, I'd probably only leave my house on the weekend. IMO it's not so bad. I don't miss grocery shopping. I do miss walking to work up Powell St. I do know my neighbors though, and talk to them on a pretty regular basis. I don't like sports especially, but I also do have some recreational hobbies that get me outside.
- TylerE 2y agoThat's more or less my life, except that I don't live somewhere walkable, and do still buy groceries in person (although I will, especially when my mobility/fatigue/general health issues acting up, use their curbside service), but that store is a 2 minute drive from my house. As I mentioned, I have medical issues that are currently rather sucky and limiting, and being chronic, largely irreversible conditions, well, they aren't gonna get better. Maybe with stem cells one day... Anyway, point being that these sort of services (which, in my case, can also be stuff like... buying the pre-cut fruit rather than whole) can be a pretty big deal for the disabled.
- kelvinjps10 2y agoAlthough this is your reality most of thr time, people need to go out with family/friends, from time to time. So when they disappear where people are going to go?
- bayindirh 2y agoJust because I can order everything I need for home with a couple of taps (which I can, BTW), work from home time to time, and can cook and clean by myself doesn't mean that I don't need to leave home. Taking a long tour along the neighborhood, to see what I want to buy first hand before pulling the trigger, or seeing an old friend and getting a nice coffee at that café are all valid reasons to go out. Getting fresh air, regularly walking, seeing a couple of different and unknown faces are regular maintenance tasks for the body and brain. I don't think humans should hole up at their homes and work/doom scroll/eat/doom scroll/sleep/repeat just because they can. That's unhealthy for every aspect of your body and life to begin with.
- compootr 2y agoI think there's an episode about this in Love+Death+Robots
- llm_trw 2y agoAlternatively the idea that people don't entertain at home is a sign of a completely broken housing market where you get a human storage unit rather than a home.
- suprfnk 2y agoA tiny bit of this is already here: our robot vacuum & mop vacuums and mops the living room, kitchen, and dining room every night at 01:00. Coming downstairs in the morning to a completely clean floor is definitely a tiny bit of that magic.
- haccount 2y agoHaving a mop-capable robotic vacuum myself I have a completely different experience. It is simply too stupid(despite being a smart model with camera and room mapping LiDAR) and get stuck at carpet edges and under chairs. If I want to use it on schedule I need to perpetually have all areas I want it to clean adapted to robotic vacuuming. Which I don't, meaning I have to manually go over the entire area and pick up objects, move chairs, move the small carpets and then empty the all too small storage bin on the robotic vacuum after it have done its rounds. And don't even get me started on the mopping function. The end result being that if I take a regular vacuum in my hand and do the pre-robot screening round, I've managed to already vacuum the entire flat with a much more powerful machine in less time than the robot vacuum process would've required.
- imp0cat 2y agoYeah, I demand more info about the mop from the OP. What model do you have and are you completely satisfied? I was under the impressionthat most of wet mop models just smear dirt everywhere instead of really cleaning a dirty floor.
- nradov 2y agoOur robot vacuum gets stuck under the bookcase and tangled up with my laptop charging cable.
- alwayslikethis 2y agoBonus: if you never need to leave home, you don't need ironed shirts, either.