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Support for Claude Sonnet 3.5, OpenAI O1 and Gemini 1.5 Pro

69 points by benocodes 2y ago

senko 2y ago
Apparently that's Codium, who have recently renamed themselves to Qodo: https://www.qodo.ai/blog/introducing-qodo-a-new-name-the-same-commitment-to-quality/ https://www.qodo.ai/blog/introducing-qodo-a-new-name-the-sam... (TIL)
- SquareWheel 2y ago
  It seems like their new name is literally "Qodo (formerly Codium)", parenthetical included. At first I thought they were just including it in the blog post for clarity, but they literally write it out that way a dozen times. It's also included as part of their new logo and in the site title. I've never seen anything like that before. It feels like a search+replace operation gone awry.
  - superfrank 2y ago
    SEO reasons maybe?
  - emmanueloga_ 2y ago
    Why is "Qodo" "better" than "Codium"?
    - vunderba 2y ago
      Not sure maybe they felt like SEO results would rank VS Codium over it?
      - swyx 2y ago
        no theres another series b startup codeium that they get confused for all the time. we talked to both - https://latent.space/p/codium-agents https://latent.space/p/codium-agents - https://latent.space/p/varun-mohan https://latent.space/p/varun-mohan
        SquareWheel 2y ago
        Huh, look at that. I completely mixed them up too. Thankfully they have an article which "helpfully" clarifies things: > We’ve noticed that there’s been some confusion between our company, Codium (now Qodo (formerly Codium)), and another company, Codeium. https://www.qodo.ai/blog/codiumai-or-codeium-which-are-you-looking-for/ https://www.qodo.ai/blog/codiumai-or-codeium-which-are-you-l...
        swyx 2y ago
        "How to Distinguish Between Codium (now Qodo (formerly Codium)) and Codeium" dear god
        throwaway48476 2y ago
        Should have bought the quibi name.
        Spivak 2y ago
        Hey, X (formerly Twitter) is clearly doing great and was a good branding change that makes sense and is reasonable.
  - tourmalinetaco 2y ago
    Maybe it’s a joke? Like “X, formerly Twitter” or “Ye, formerly Kanye”, or even “the artist formerly known as Prince”.
gronky_ 2y ago
I tried generating the same test with all 5 models in Qodo Gen. o1 is very slow - like, you can go get a coffee while it generates a single test (if it doesn’t time out in middle). o1-mini thought worked really well. It generated a good test and wasn’t noticeably slower than the other models. My feeling is that o1-mini will end up being more useful for coding than o1, except for maybe some specific instances where you need very deep analysis
- superfrank 2y ago
  How well did it work for generating tests? I was looking for an AI test generation tool yesterday and I came across this and it wasn't clear how good it is. (before I get a bunch of comments about not letting AI write tests, this is for a hobby side project that I have a few hours a week to work on. I'm looking into AI test generation because the alternative is no tests)
gaze 2y ago
I guess this is as good a place as any to ask -- what's everyone's favorite AI code assist tool?
- mattnewton 2y ago
  cursor. First one I've tried that seems like it's more than a neat demo. - but I'm weird and I usually disable tab completion, I find having generations popping up while I'm typing slows me down, I gotta read them and think about it, feels like it's giving me ADD. So I've always kinda been a copilot hater. Lots of people find this more productive, and a fancy version of it is on by default in Cursor. However, Cursor implemented a bunch of different interfaces well not just the copilot one, and I find the chat window in your editor for churning out boilerplate or refactors is a huge productivity win personally. There are a lot of one-off refactors that are annoying enough that I wouldn't want to dedicate an afternoon to them but now they are taking me just a few minutes of reviewing AI changes.
  - written-beyond 2y ago
    Exactly why I never went with getting copilot, I instead got a chatgpt subscription and prompt for stuff I need. I do sort of regret it too, sometimes you just want to give more context and it's a hassle at that time. Figuring out what is it you need to paste to ensure the model has adequate context to generate something valid. Also, Claude is magnitudes superior to ChatGPT anything. Both are terrible at implementing abstract completely unique code blocks, however ChatGPT is significantly more "markov-y" when it comes to generating any code. When Claude gets things wrong it feels like a more human mistake. Anyway, with 50% of HN obsessing over Cursor, is it worth it? I couldn't get it to open projects I have in WSL2 and I kind of gave up at that point. I've gotten far with Claude's free tier and $20 for just cursor seems steep for something that's not as stable. Have you assessed Zed auto completion or read about others experience of it? Zed seems like something with a more stable foundation than any of these VSCode forks.
    - infecto 2y ago
      Cursor has been my favorite so far but I also have never tried Codium. Copilot was the winner prior but honestly its just tab completion. I tried Jetbrains but it felt janky and slow. Cursor tab completion feels nicer, its super fast and will do updates based code changes. I like being able to quickly get it to write some code updates and it returns in a green/red line like a github PR. The flow is really nice for me and I am looking forward to the future.
haliliceylan 2y ago
How is that free ???
- rtsil 2y ago
  Presumably free refers to the users on their free plan, which does not include code generation/autocomplete except for tests.
decide1000 2y ago
I use Tabnine. It supports many models, including Claude. I find the output better compared to CoPilot. My IDE's are from Jetbrains and I work in Python and PHP mainly.
greenavocado 2y ago
I want to bring my own API keys not pay $20 a month for another sub

69 points by benocodes 2y ago

Apparently that's Codium, who have recently renamed themselves to Qodo: https://www.qodo.ai/blog/introducing-qodo-a-new-name-the-same-commitment-to-quality/ https://www.qodo.ai/blog/introducing-qodo-a-new-name-the-sam... (TIL)

SquareWheel 2y ago
It seems like their new name is literally "Qodo (formerly Codium)", parenthetical included. At first I thought they were just including it in the blog post for clarity, but they literally write it out that way a dozen times. It's also included as part of their new logo and in the site title. I've never seen anything like that before. It feels like a search+replace operation gone awry.
- superfrank 2y ago
  SEO reasons maybe?
- emmanueloga_ 2y ago
  Why is "Qodo" "better" than "Codium"?
  - vunderba 2y ago
    Not sure maybe they felt like SEO results would rank VS Codium over it?
    - swyx 2y ago
      no theres another series b startup codeium that they get confused for all the time. we talked to both - https://latent.space/p/codium-agents https://latent.space/p/codium-agents - https://latent.space/p/varun-mohan https://latent.space/p/varun-mohan
      - SquareWheel 2y ago
        Huh, look at that. I completely mixed them up too. Thankfully they have an article which "helpfully" clarifies things: > We’ve noticed that there’s been some confusion between our company, Codium (now Qodo (formerly Codium)), and another company, Codeium. https://www.qodo.ai/blog/codiumai-or-codeium-which-are-you-looking-for/ https://www.qodo.ai/blog/codiumai-or-codeium-which-are-you-l...
        swyx 2y ago
        "How to Distinguish Between Codium (now Qodo (formerly Codium)) and Codeium" dear god
        throwaway48476 2y ago
        Should have bought the quibi name.
        Spivak 2y ago
        Hey, X (formerly Twitter) is clearly doing great and was a good branding change that makes sense and is reasonable.
- tourmalinetaco 2y ago
  Maybe it’s a joke? Like “X, formerly Twitter” or “Ye, formerly Kanye”, or even “the artist formerly known as Prince”.

gronky_ 2y ago

I tried generating the same test with all 5 models in Qodo Gen. o1 is very slow - like, you can go get a coffee while it generates a single test (if it doesn’t time out in middle). o1-mini thought worked really well. It generated a good test and wasn’t noticeably slower than the other models. My feeling is that o1-mini will end up being more useful for coding than o1, except for maybe some specific instances where you need very deep analysis

superfrank 2y ago
How well did it work for generating tests? I was looking for an AI test generation tool yesterday and I came across this and it wasn't clear how good it is. (before I get a bunch of comments about not letting AI write tests, this is for a hobby side project that I have a few hours a week to work on. I'm looking into AI test generation because the alternative is no tests)

gaze 2y ago

I guess this is as good a place as any to ask -- what's everyone's favorite AI code assist tool?

mattnewton 2y ago
cursor. First one I've tried that seems like it's more than a neat demo. - but I'm weird and I usually disable tab completion, I find having generations popping up while I'm typing slows me down, I gotta read them and think about it, feels like it's giving me ADD. So I've always kinda been a copilot hater. Lots of people find this more productive, and a fancy version of it is on by default in Cursor. However, Cursor implemented a bunch of different interfaces well not just the copilot one, and I find the chat window in your editor for churning out boilerplate or refactors is a huge productivity win personally. There are a lot of one-off refactors that are annoying enough that I wouldn't want to dedicate an afternoon to them but now they are taking me just a few minutes of reviewing AI changes.
- written-beyond 2y ago
  Exactly why I never went with getting copilot, I instead got a chatgpt subscription and prompt for stuff I need. I do sort of regret it too, sometimes you just want to give more context and it's a hassle at that time. Figuring out what is it you need to paste to ensure the model has adequate context to generate something valid. Also, Claude is magnitudes superior to ChatGPT anything. Both are terrible at implementing abstract completely unique code blocks, however ChatGPT is significantly more "markov-y" when it comes to generating any code. When Claude gets things wrong it feels like a more human mistake. Anyway, with 50% of HN obsessing over Cursor, is it worth it? I couldn't get it to open projects I have in WSL2 and I kind of gave up at that point. I've gotten far with Claude's free tier and $20 for just cursor seems steep for something that's not as stable. Have you assessed Zed auto completion or read about others experience of it? Zed seems like something with a more stable foundation than any of these VSCode forks.
  - infecto 2y ago
    Cursor has been my favorite so far but I also have never tried Codium. Copilot was the winner prior but honestly its just tab completion. I tried Jetbrains but it felt janky and slow. Cursor tab completion feels nicer, its super fast and will do updates based code changes. I like being able to quickly get it to write some code updates and it returns in a green/red line like a github PR. The flow is really nice for me and I am looking forward to the future.

haliliceylan 2y ago

How is that free ???

rtsil 2y ago
Presumably free refers to the users on their free plan, which does not include code generation/autocomplete except for tests.

decide1000 2y ago

I use Tabnine. It supports many models, including Claude. I find the output better compared to CoPilot. My IDE's are from Jetbrains and I work in Python and PHP mainly.

greenavocado 2y ago

I want to bring my own API keys not pay $20 a month for another sub