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“Hacker News” was always the arm of Valley startup mentality, not Slashdot-era Linux enthusiast privacy spook groupthink. It is unfortunate that this change has

“Hacker News” was always the arm of Valley startup mentality, not Slashdot-era Linux enthusiast privacy spook groupthink. It is unfortunate that this change has occurred.

dartharva 2y ago
> Slashdot-era Linux enthusiast privacy spook groupthink This is what the vast majority of discourse on these topics has been dominated by on every platform, not just HN. I wonder if there's a shorter term for this, none of 4chan /g/'s crass terms cover this kind of depiction.
- talldayo 2y ago
  > I wonder if there's a shorter term for this Competition-enabled rationalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve
amelius 2y ago
Startups sometimes want to build hardware products, and in that case they mostly can't rely on __consumer__ products like Apple sells. Apple gobbling up supply chains and production capacity is not something a hardware startup should be happy with. Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation. Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for. There are more reasons to dislike Apple than you can find on Slashdot.
- Klonoar 2y ago
  > Apple gobbling up supply chains and production capacity is not something a hardware startup should be happy with. You start with a very good and fair point. > Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation. > Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for. You ended with one that is pretty much at odds with my experience. Startups value distribution channels, and the App Store has been fantastic for this. Furthermore, it's one thing to dislike Apple. It's another thing for people to veer off into conspiracy theory, which is what half the threads on here have started to do.
_yb2s 2y ago
Where do you think those Slashdot era Linux enthusiasts now work?

“Hacker News” was always the arm of Valley startup mentality, not Slashdot-era Linux enthusiast privacy spook groupthink. It is unfortunate that this change has occurred.

dartharva 2y ago

> Slashdot-era Linux enthusiast privacy spook groupthink This is what the vast majority of discourse on these topics has been dominated by on every platform, not just HN. I wonder if there's a shorter term for this, none of 4chan /g/'s crass terms cover this kind of depiction.

talldayo 2y ago
> I wonder if there's a shorter term for this Competition-enabled rationalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve

amelius 2y ago

Startups sometimes want to build hardware products, and in that case they mostly can't rely on __consumer__ products like Apple sells. Apple gobbling up supply chains and production capacity is not something a hardware startup should be happy with. Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation. Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for. There are more reasons to dislike Apple than you can find on Slashdot.

Klonoar 2y ago
> Apple gobbling up supply chains and production capacity is not something a hardware startup should be happy with. You start with a very good and fair point. > Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation. > Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for. You ended with one that is pretty much at odds with my experience. Startups value distribution channels, and the App Store has been fantastic for this. Furthermore, it's one thing to dislike Apple. It's another thing for people to veer off into conspiracy theory, which is what half the threads on here have started to do.

_yb2s 2y ago

Where do you think those Slashdot era Linux enthusiasts now work?