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I threw out all my pots and pans that have non stick surfaces and replaced them with stainless steel. Same with most kitchen cooking implements. Stainless ste
by andrewstuart 2y ago
I threw out all my pots and pans that have non stick surfaces and replaced them with stainless steel.
Same with most kitchen cooking implements.
Stainless steel pots and pans are much cheaper, last longer, you can scrub and scrape them and the big upside is you don’t have to consume DuPont non stick chemical coating nor feed it to your children.
Despite all the celebrity chefs in the world attempting to sell you their name brand chemical coated fry pans.
- tylerflick 2y agoI did the same. I still use cast iron and ceramic though.
- esperent 2y agoI have, very regretfully, stopped using cast iron. Being a man, in a country where I can't easily donate blood, iron load is something that I want to be careful of. It is possible to cook with cast iron in a way that won't leech too much iron into food, just as it is possible to cook with nonstick in a way that won't leech Dupont chemicals. But I'd much rather just use foolproof stainless or ceramic cookware that doesn't have these issues.
- alexey-salmin 2y agoSorry, I can't understand the idea, why iron is bad and what does it have to do with blood donations? I mean I know iron and blood are related but this particular statement just won't compute
- nine_k 2y agoToo much of anything is bad. A quart of table salt would kill you. A bucket of water force-fed into you could kill you. Hemoglobin in blood contains a lot of iron; it's used to bind oxygen. Too much iron intake apparently can result in its overproduction, and too much is no good. Donating blood rids you of excess iron, while also benefiting other people. I suppose you should first check if your levels of iron are indeed excessive.
- notnaut 2y agoIs this comment an implicit endorsement of giving blood as a health benefit because it allows to slough off heavy metals or something? what…? News to me.
- com2kid 2y agoDonating blood actually has multiple positive upsides!
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoMy other half works for the NHS blood/transfusion department and was able to trace my blood (after I gave her the number on the blood pack) and confirm that I was negative for various diseases including syphilis. Also, you get a free iron/anaemia test before donating.
- andy_ppp 2y agoNo giving blood particularly for men (I wonder why) is good because having too much iron in your body rots your flesh: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/haemochromatosis/ https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/haemochromatosis/
- BoiledCabbage 2y agoAm I missing something? You link is to an inherited disease. If you don't have this inherited disease is this relevant for most people? The way the comment is phrased, it implies that it's bad for men in general. Your link says for people with a specific issue.
- andy_ppp 2y agoHere is a better link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_overload https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_overload The link actually says iron overload can also be called haemochromatosis too so a bit confusing that that page says it’s inherited…
- ikiris 2y agoWhat? Unless you have haemochromatosis this is really tinfoilery over the iron levels acquired through natural ingestion, especially the thought of leach levels from a pan. You get more iron from meat or a bowl of cereal than you could ever get from a pan without it being flat out dissolved in the process over the course of a handful of cooks.
- Ekaros 2y agoIs the iron that leaches from pan even bio-available? Aren't supplements very specific compounds? I can admit that it might be toxic, but that toxicity is not due to something like over production of haemoglobin...
- dmurray 2y agoIron filings (mostly elemental iron with some iron oxides) are used as supplements, so definitely bio-available.
- ikiris 2y agoBut to get enough iron out of a pan to even match a single bowl of cereal you'd have to use a grinder.
- dmurray 2y agoCereals run around 5 mg iron for a bowl [0]. A pan is about 1 kg (a good cast iron one could be much heavier). That's enough for 200,000 bowls of cereal. Even if you reckon the pan is degraded enough to be obviously useless after losing 5% of its weight, that would require you to use it every day for 30 years, not "a handful of cooks". [0] https://www.haemochromatosis.org.uk/breakfast-cereals-and-their-iron-content https://www.haemochromatosis.org.uk/breakfast-cereals-and-th...
- gsky 2y agoI kept saying this for a decade but no one listens, even my mom. Consider all outside food is toxic too.
- nine_k 2y agoJust curious: do you raise your own poultry? Milk your own cow? Grow your own wheat? If so, my huge respect! (Otherwise...)
- herbst 2y agoNot op and not raising my own cattle. However IMO finding a farmer you trust and ordering directly once a month or so is easier and cheaper than buying meat in supermarkets.
- defrost 2y ago( not the person that made the "outside food" comment ) "you have to grow your own" is hardly the way to think about it .. we source the vast bulk of our food locally from our state and various farm groups. To address your questions; Yes, we (the household I live in) have our own poultry, yes we grow our own grain, yes we have our own sheep. Ditto potatoes, figs, oranges, lemons, manderins, blueberries, garlic, herbs, olives, olive oil, etc. No to "milk cow" - this isn't prime dairy country; that's some 500 km south and that's where we get milk from .. still extended family though. Beef cattle and the best fish is some 1,000+ km north - still the same state and still from extended family. Essentially what we eat comes from our land or that of people we know either directly or with a single intermediary. It's pretty healthy that way, we have one of the highest life expectancy's on the planet and COVID was a non issue here, both of the two roads in|out of the state were "closed" (goods trucks loaded | unloaded with no driver social contact, just sleep over, move on) the ships and airports quarantined with a mandated seperation of people or a mandated one-two week isolation if coming in. Here's the local grain co-op: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group .. we can pass harvest on and get back ground grain in sacks for home use. State land area is 3x that of Texas, state population 2.5 million (ish), mostly city dwellers. "Outside food" - overly processed as found on (say) US supermarket shelves ... dunno much about that.
- kylebenzle 2y ago[flagged]
- andrewstuart 2y agoAren’t we talking about chemical contamination from kitchen cooking items?
- kylebenzle 2y agoNo, like hand towels and bunt pans are not what's being discussed, article is about plastic utensils.
- akira2501 2y ago> are you bringing it up for a reason? This article relates to "hidden dangers of cookware." If he was talking about the vagaries of the solar cycle on Mars, I'd be on your side, as it is, this comes across as reflexive gatekeeping. > Do people on this site now just read the headlines and then come to comment their stream of consciousness based on the title? And.. what, precisely, do you think _you're_ doing in this comment? Is it not precisely what you complain about?
- cdchn 2y agoMust people restrict their comments to only what is raised in the linked pages?
- manfre 2y agoStaying on topic is viewed more positively.
- nickthegreek 2y agoThis is directly related to the topic. You cant have an indepth discussion about why we use these type of utensils without a discussion of non-stick as one of hte main reasons we use them is they don't scratch nonstick. Or you can collapse the thread and move on to the discussion you are interested in, or just downvote. But complaining that one of the current points of discussion doesnt do it for ya is a pretty lame method of trying to control a topic that you dont even have interest in.
- adrianmonk 2y ago> you can scrub and scrape them Though you won't need to scrub very long if you use this: https://barkeepersfriend.com/products/cookware-cleanser-polish/ https://barkeepersfriend.com/products/cookware-cleanser-poli... Because of chemistry I don't understand, oxalic acid is amazing at removing burnt on food.
- nemo44x 2y agoIt’s the best thing ever. However if cleaning many things I highly recommend gloves. Will leave your hands feeling odd for awhile otherwise.
- andrewstuart 2y ago>> 50% more grease-cutting detergents The chemicals don't appeal to me - I don't want them in the house, in the sewage water or as residue on the pots. Soak pots in plain water for several hours and they'll clean easily.
- euroderf 2y agoClean freaks might object to standing water in pans. But it really does work. First rinse & brush out what you can before soaking, so that it looks like water and not sludge.
- andrewstuart 2y agoWater is a powerful solvent it just needs time.