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I learned yesterday that all M-chip Macs with enough RAM are getting Apple Intelligence? This basically proves that Apple shot themselves in the foot for AI on
by yunohn 2y ago
I learned yesterday that all M-chip Macs with enough RAM are getting Apple Intelligence?
This basically proves that Apple shot themselves in the foot for AI on mobile by artificially restricting RAM for so long! Heck, even the Neural Engine has turned out to be basically useless despite all their grandstanding.
So alas, their prior greed has resulted in their most popular consumer iDevices being the least AI compatible devices in their lineup. They could’ve leapfrogged every other manufacturer with the largest AI compatible device userbase.
- mostlysimilar 2y agoI think it's great that Apple was able to ship devices that millions of people made happy use of without needing to put additional hardware resources into them. That's efficiency, not greed.
- yunohn 2y agoI own almost every Apple ecosystem device, but I definitely wouldn’t call their mobile device RAM capacity as sufficient. It physically hurts me when my iPad Pro M2 and iPhone 16 Pro Max (earlier 15,14,13,12,11) start to swap out live apps - sure some apps retain state, but the majority still don’t. Even Safari randomly reloads tabs for me, while I’m just researching purchases across <10 live tabs.
- mostlysimilar 2y agoThat's fair, it sounds like you've got a real problem. I'd be surprised of the majority of users experience that problem though.
- seec 2y agoNo, they do. They just don't understand enough about technology/computing to know what's going on or they don't care (or at least pretend to, because they don't have any other experience). It's really crazy that some android phones at half the price give a better browsing experience than many iPhones, especially the non "Pro" ones.
- fennecbutt 2y agoYeah on my S24U rn I have 8 or so apps open, 100 or so tabs in ff (enough that it just shows an infinity symbol rather than number of tabs). That's with 12GB memory. Tbf it seems to be browsers that kill memory on any platform. The Web is now just mobile breakpoints that load needlessly high res images.
- seec 2y agoWell that's not a cheap phone but yes if you are going high-end, it's probably a better experience than a comparatively priced iPhone. Of course, the browsers are problematic for memory but that's not new and hilariously the first iPhone was supposed to work only with web apps. It's not like if they couldn't spend a few dollars more on their expensive premium hardware to guarantee a good experience for all use cases. This is the big problem with Apple today, the milking at every single step, the stupid pricing ladder and scrooge attitude is extremely distasteful and completely unreasonable for the price asked.
- grahamj 2y ago> This basically proves that Apple shot themselves in the foot for AI on mobile by artificially restricting RAM for so long! What they shot was us. My 14 Pro won’t do AI despite having a better NPU than an M1, all because Apple chose - intentionally - to ship it with too little RAM. They knew AI was coming and they did this anyway. Although having played with it on my MBP it’s clear I’m not missing much. But still.
- DrBenCarson 2y agoThey knew they were releasing Apple Intelligence before ChatGPT went live? lol
- grahamj 2y agoThey knew about LLMs in 2022. They've been shipping NPUs since transformers hit the scene in 2017.
- fennecbutt 2y agoWell given they're leaning on concepts like loras etc so much with apple "intelligence" I don't imagine they've been planning this for as long as you think they have. And their npus weren't added in anticipation of LLMs, imo. You give em too much credit.
- TiredOfLife 2y agoBut now they get to sell new devices to them
- medell 2y agoThis might actually push people to upgrade their hardware. And Apple retention rates are high. Apple will be fine.
- captainbland 2y agoSounds like they've just done planned obsolescence faster to their lower paying customers.