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What frugality? He was paying the full price that it was being sold at.
by arandomusername 2y ago
What frugality? He was paying the full price that it was being sold at.
- stouset 2y ago[flagged]
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoThat depends on whether it's table service, or whether you yourself go to the counter to buy your drink. Until very recently, that was the dividing line for tips (except at bars).
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- isodev 2y agoHow cruel can one be to try to come up with such a "line"? In my mind it goes like this: If you're served by a human and tips are not included in normal pay by law, you tip. If it's a country where people can't live with just the one job, you tip a lot.
- renewiltord 2y agoDisappointed that you haven’t sent me my money for being parent to my comment. Do you need ETH address to tip to?
- DiogenesKynikos 2y agoCruel? There are a set of pretty arbitrary customs about where you tip and where you don't tip. You would be considered a weirdo if you tipped at the grocery store. In the US, you have to tip at sit-down restaurants. Traditionally, in the US, people rarely tipped when they had to go to the counter to order and pick up food. That's just the custom, though it seems to be rapidly changing, so that basically any food or drink service now involves tipping.
- hyperhopper 2y agoBy your own logic, do you tip every grocery store cashier? Do you tip your landlord? Do you tip the toll collector on the highway? Tipping everybody who you hand cash to is crazy. And the US is the only place where you have to do it for a large percentage of that population.
- kstrauser 2y agoNo way, no how. I tip really well for people who actually provide service. If you're my waiter or delivery driver, I'll take care of you. Conversely, I have never tipped anyone a single penny for handing me a burger at a drive thru, nor will I, and I don't feel the slightest bit guilty about it. Coffee bars are a grey area. If I'm ordering something fancy, I'll probably tip. If I'm getting a cup of black joe from an urn of pre-made coffee, I may or may not. I'll continue to tip well for people working in traditionally tipped positions. The last few years have seen companies attempt to massively expand that list of positions so that their employees get paid more without their bosses having to pay for it. Those cheapskates can give their workers raises instead of turfing it off onto us.
- bigstrat2003 2y agoBro there's no "wait staff" involved in this transaction. He purchased an item, the person handed it to him. This is well outside the bounds of what should be tipped.
- cryptoz 2y agoIf that is your takeaway from this story, hooooo boy you must be in a rage every day. Places all over Seattle default their machines to tip 18% when you buy a single roll of toilet paper and nothing else. (Edit: you could also pick up a few bottles of expensive wine they sell; maybe you’re in a rush and don’t expect a tip screen ; ooooops you tipped $40 for nothing!) There’s a place that does this less than a block from me right now. Actually probably 2-3 places if you extend a block further.
- qwerpy 2y agoWhere in Seattle does this? Maybe it’s different on the east side. Costco and the grocery store chains here certainly don’t do that.
- cryptoz 2y agoI’m in lower Queen Anne. Every corner store that also sells coffee/sandwiches does this. Maybe 1-5% of customers are buying a sandwich, but 100% are prompted to tip with an 18% default.
- Talanes 2y agoThe problem is that it seems to be necessary to prompt every transaction for a tip to collect any credit tips at all, or at least all the major POS are set-up that way. Which doesn't seem like it should be a big problem in an already not tip-heavy, but there are a surprising number of people who make a very big show of not being able to tip because there's no credit option.
- 2muchcoffeeman 2y agoWait, you guys tip now when you go to the supermarket and get and scan your own toilet paper?
- neeleshs 2y agoIsn't that shifting responsibility to the customer? That is a very odd take
- neeleshs 2y agoIsn't that shifting responsibility to the customer?
- stouset 2y agoThe responsibility is already on the customer. It shouldn’t be, and restaurants should have to pay their workers minimum wage. But it isn’t that way, and stiffing service workers isn’t the way to fix it.
- neeleshs 2y agoNeither is stiffing the customers to the tune of 15-20 percent.
- stouset 2y agoNobody is arguing that tipping culture isn’t stupid. But it’s the society we live in and you know that before you step into a restaurant.
- neeleshs 2y agoAnd nobody has stopped paying tips either. It is very socially awkward not to pay it. But i won't agree that in principle not paying is stiffing the staff. It is stupid, the industry has arm twisted customers to make it socially mandatory to pay and calling it stiffing the staff is blaming another victim.
- gosub100 2y agoAm I the only one who caught the Reservoir Dogs reference?
- not_a_bot_4sho 2y agoSeattle coffee culture is different than what you may be used to.
- AdieuToLogic 2y ago> What frugality? He was paying the full price that it was being sold at. By that logic, most reading these comments should expect to hear from their employer: What annual bonus? What stock options? The company is paying full price that your time was being sold at.
- l33t7332273 2y agoThe “full price” often includes a bonus and stock options.
- xandrius 2y agoAnnual bonus is either performance based or as a retainer to make up for differences in the wages since the person was hired. Stock options are because you could be paid more or you are taking risks for future rewards. A mandatory tip is because your employer doesn't want to pay you full wage and instead of increasing the price and pay you more, they pass it over to the customers. So they get the same profits without having to bother. Quite different reasons.
- godelski 2y ago> Annual bonus is either performance based >>>> We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- AdieuToLogic 2y ago> Annual bonus is either performance based or as a retainer to make up for differences in the wages since the person was hired. Sounds like a tip to me. > Stock options are because you could be paid more or you are taking risks for future rewards. Sounds to me like the allure of a job in which tipping is expected. > A mandatory tip is because your employer doesn't want to pay you full wage ... Tips are not mandatory by definition.
- bryanrasmussen 2y ago>A mandatory tip evidently the tips under discussion were not mandatory.
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