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> The screen is such a major point of failure. The screen of an iMac (at least the 5K 27" one) is the part that still has value, so its annoying when you can't

> The screen is such a major point of failure. The screen of an iMac (at least the 5K 27" one) is the part that still has value, so its annoying when you can't use it on new hardware.

klodolph 2y ago
Yes, that is annoying. There’s also such a massive price difference between 4K and 5K monitors. I’ve decided just to accept 4K everywhere because it’s so much cheaper. But I would consider getting a 5K iMac.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > Yes, that is annoying. There’s also such a massive price difference between 4K and 5K monitors. Perhaps check out the Asus PA27JCV: 27" at 5120x2880.
  - vesrah 2y ago
    The unfortunate part is that these aren't for sale yet and we don't know how they actually compare to the existing LG 5k or Apple Studio display. It is nice to see more options coming to market.
    - throw0101d 2y ago
      > The unfortunate part is that these aren't for sale yet […] They were announced 'all the way' back in June, and I've heard rumours of October 31 being the ship date, so perhaps check back next week. In the US, B&H is taking pre-orders, so presumably it can't be that far off: * https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1850479-REG/asus_pa27jcv_27_proart_5k_usb_c.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1850479-REG/asus_pa27...
- msisk6 2y ago
  I have a MacBook Air on my desk plugged into a Apple 27-inch 5k Studio Display next to my work MacBook Pro plugged into a cheap AOC 27-inch 4k display via HDMI and frankly there's not much difference. The speakers and mic in the Apple display are nice, but if you're just concerned about the display itself save yourself the bucks and stay with the 4k.
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  I have a 28" 4K from LG and a Samsung 27" 5K. It wasn't that bad, $5-600.
squarefoot 2y ago
I was surprised to find out that along older VGA/HD LCD controllers now there are also 3rd party boards to drive 5K Apple screens. Look for "5k screen controller" on Aliexpress. Price range from ~130€ to 300+€, no idea about the quality.
throw0101d 2y ago
> The screen of an iMac (at least the 5K 27" one) I've had a few of these iMacs and would like another. When I buy a new one (every ~5 years) I hand down the old one to a family member (the last one is ~10 years old now, and stuck at macOS 12(?)). I like the form factor as it is convenient. I'm typing this on 2019 Retina 5K and am hoping Apple will bring back that form factor (there have been rumours of a 32", but that's a bit too big IMHO). As it stands, it looks like the Asus PA27JCV has similar specs, and so I may end up with that and an Mac mini.
sleepybrett 2y ago
I know that some of the older imacs could still work as a monitor using 'target display mode'. Would be nice, however, if apple could design an imac where the actual computer is a module you can snap into an older one to upgrade it. At some point we need to stop putting these things into landfills or even recycling them. I've been using the same PC case for at least 10 years ship of Theseus style and the same monitors for 5. I appreciate apples recycling stance but even better is a reuse stance. Even just stripping back all the aluminum, melting it all down, re casting it and then remachining it has a significant cost. For the last 10-20 years apple has been pretty good about reusing case designs for a few generations before doing some kind of redesign. Seems silly that I can't swap out a motherboard for a m2 macbook for an m3 macbook. (maybe this would also stop them from fucking soldering the storage to the motherboard since an upgrade that wipes my whole machine is utter bullshit)
ellisv 2y ago
It's really a shame that Apple discontinued target display mode.

> The screen is such a major point of failure. The screen of an iMac (at least the 5K 27" one) is the part that still has value, so its annoying when you can't use it on new hardware.

klodolph 2y ago

Yes, that is annoying. There’s also such a massive price difference between 4K and 5K monitors. I’ve decided just to accept 4K everywhere because it’s so much cheaper. But I would consider getting a 5K iMac.

throw0101d 2y ago
> Yes, that is annoying. There’s also such a massive price difference between 4K and 5K monitors. Perhaps check out the Asus PA27JCV: 27" at 5120x2880.
- vesrah 2y ago
  The unfortunate part is that these aren't for sale yet and we don't know how they actually compare to the existing LG 5k or Apple Studio display. It is nice to see more options coming to market.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > The unfortunate part is that these aren't for sale yet […] They were announced 'all the way' back in June, and I've heard rumours of October 31 being the ship date, so perhaps check back next week. In the US, B&H is taking pre-orders, so presumably it can't be that far off: * https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1850479-REG/asus_pa27jcv_27_proart_5k_usb_c.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1850479-REG/asus_pa27...
msisk6 2y ago
I have a MacBook Air on my desk plugged into a Apple 27-inch 5k Studio Display next to my work MacBook Pro plugged into a cheap AOC 27-inch 4k display via HDMI and frankly there's not much difference. The speakers and mic in the Apple display are nice, but if you're just concerned about the display itself save yourself the bucks and stay with the 4k.
seanmcdirmid 2y ago
I have a 28" 4K from LG and a Samsung 27" 5K. It wasn't that bad, $5-600.

squarefoot 2y ago

I was surprised to find out that along older VGA/HD LCD controllers now there are also 3rd party boards to drive 5K Apple screens. Look for "5k screen controller" on Aliexpress. Price range from ~130€ to 300+€, no idea about the quality.

throw0101d 2y ago

> The screen of an iMac (at least the 5K 27" one) I've had a few of these iMacs and would like another. When I buy a new one (every ~5 years) I hand down the old one to a family member (the last one is ~10 years old now, and stuck at macOS 12(?)). I like the form factor as it is convenient. I'm typing this on 2019 Retina 5K and am hoping Apple will bring back that form factor (there have been rumours of a 32", but that's a bit too big IMHO). As it stands, it looks like the Asus PA27JCV has similar specs, and so I may end up with that and an Mac mini.

sleepybrett 2y ago

I know that some of the older imacs could still work as a monitor using 'target display mode'. Would be nice, however, if apple could design an imac where the actual computer is a module you can snap into an older one to upgrade it. At some point we need to stop putting these things into landfills or even recycling them. I've been using the same PC case for at least 10 years ship of Theseus style and the same monitors for 5. I appreciate apples recycling stance but even better is a reuse stance. Even just stripping back all the aluminum, melting it all down, re casting it and then remachining it has a significant cost. For the last 10-20 years apple has been pretty good about reusing case designs for a few generations before doing some kind of redesign. Seems silly that I can't swap out a motherboard for a m2 macbook for an m3 macbook. (maybe this would also stop them from fucking soldering the storage to the motherboard since an upgrade that wipes my whole machine is utter bullshit)

ellisv 2y ago

It's really a shame that Apple discontinued target display mode.