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Best way to protect windows at home is actually to have two accounts - one standard you login with and use day to day and another admin account you really never

Best way to protect windows at home is actually to have two accounts - one standard you login with and use day to day and another admin account you really never need to login as. Anytime you need to install something or get admin access a pop up asks for your admin account and password. Basically this is the default way Linux works (not entirely the same but similar enough) with sudo. And the way that every corporate IT department runs windows. Another advantage is that if some malicious app tries to access something it shouldn't you will immediately know as the admin pop up will trigger.

pdonis 2y ago
> this is the default way Linux works (not entirely the same but similar enough) with sudo Kinda sorta. Here "not entirely the same but similar enough" means "doing the one major thing that Linux does not force you to do", namely, creating a whole separate user account just so that MS can make the braindead claim that a security boundary isn't being crossed when you enter admin permissions from an Administrator account. On a Linux system you only need to create one user account, and put it in the sudoers group, and Linux then properly treats every attempt to do something with sudo as crossing a security boundary and acts accordingly.
- Spivak 2y ago
  Except root is that account. You're still crossing a user-boundary same as Windows. If you give your user CAP_SYS_ADMIN that's like putting them in the Administrators group.
- plorkyeran 2y ago
  I think you are very confused about what sudo and being in the sudoers group does? sudo is just a command which lets you execute a command as another user. In the typical use case, it lets you execute a command as root rather than as your current user. For it to do anything useful you have to do exactly the same thing as you do on Windows: create a second unprivileged account and log into that instead of root.
  - pdonis 2y ago
    > I think you are very confused about what sudo and being in the sudoers group does? I think you are very confused about what a Linux user actually has to do--and not do. > create a second unprivileged account and log into that instead of root. No, you create one account. The root account doesn't have to be created. It's automatically there, built into the system. On Windows, you have to explicitly create two separate accounts, one with Administrator privileges and one without.
    - kchr 2y ago
      > No, you create one account. The root account doesn't have to be created. It's automatically there, built into the system. On Windows, you have to explicitly create two separate accounts, one with Administrator privileges and one without. Correct, but you're missing the point. There's practically no difference between Linux and Windows when you need to escalate privileges, except having to enter credentials for another (privileged) user than your current (unprivileged) user. The security boundary is there and the user experience is basically the same. Everything else is just nitpicking.
    - anticensor 2y ago
      On windows, you just create one then do a "runas TrustedInstaller"

pdonis 2y ago

> this is the default way Linux works (not entirely the same but similar enough) with sudo Kinda sorta. Here "not entirely the same but similar enough" means "doing the one major thing that Linux does not force you to do", namely, creating a whole separate user account just so that MS can make the braindead claim that a security boundary isn't being crossed when you enter admin permissions from an Administrator account. On a Linux system you only need to create one user account, and put it in the sudoers group, and Linux then properly treats every attempt to do something with sudo as crossing a security boundary and acts accordingly.

Spivak 2y ago
Except root is that account. You're still crossing a user-boundary same as Windows. If you give your user CAP_SYS_ADMIN that's like putting them in the Administrators group.
plorkyeran 2y ago
I think you are very confused about what sudo and being in the sudoers group does? sudo is just a command which lets you execute a command as another user. In the typical use case, it lets you execute a command as root rather than as your current user. For it to do anything useful you have to do exactly the same thing as you do on Windows: create a second unprivileged account and log into that instead of root.
- pdonis 2y ago
  > I think you are very confused about what sudo and being in the sudoers group does? I think you are very confused about what a Linux user actually has to do--and not do. > create a second unprivileged account and log into that instead of root. No, you create one account. The root account doesn't have to be created. It's automatically there, built into the system. On Windows, you have to explicitly create two separate accounts, one with Administrator privileges and one without.
  - kchr 2y ago
    > No, you create one account. The root account doesn't have to be created. It's automatically there, built into the system. On Windows, you have to explicitly create two separate accounts, one with Administrator privileges and one without. Correct, but you're missing the point. There's practically no difference between Linux and Windows when you need to escalate privileges, except having to enter credentials for another (privileged) user than your current (unprivileged) user. The security boundary is there and the user experience is basically the same. Everything else is just nitpicking.
  - anticensor 2y ago
    On windows, you just create one then do a "runas TrustedInstaller"