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I wonder who the Republicans are aligned with... I can't think of an answer.

by marcosdumay 2y ago

older 2y ago
It's Musk. Opposite of economic elites!
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  The world's wealthiest man, who has aligned himself with a billionaire property developer and reality-TV host, isn't part of the "economic elite?" Some days I just wake up on the wrong side of the rabbit hole, I guess.
  - reverius42 2y ago
    I read it as sarcasm.
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  Well, one person does not make an entire class. But yeah, people that want him to send them some federal money... Nah, most of them seem to be on the other side too. And yet an entire party is supporting the guy. And he's getting about half of the votes. Maybe a lot of people are supporting him is secret.
bakugo 2y ago
Not the economic elites, or at least not most of them, otherwise they'd be better funded. Hope that makes sense.
- Yawrehto 2y ago
  Excellent point, bakugo. Let's test this. First, let's see what proportion of their contributions - measured in total dollars - are from individuals who donated under $200. For Trump, that figure is 29.65 (https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/donald-trump/candidate?id=N00023864 https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/donald-tr...) For Harris, it's 44.08 (https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/kamala-harris/candidate?id=N00036915 https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/kamala-ha...) Hmm. That's odd. Maybe we could see how much many they get from sources categorized as 'Labor' - unions and the like are unlikely to be economically elite. (Navigate to the 'Industry' tab for both.) Trump, $208,000. That's a fair bit. Harris, $31,000,000. But wait! It's possible the economic elite is funneling the money through big contributions, like PACs. So let's look at big contributions and who funded them the most (for Trump, the percent of money coming from big donors is 68.44; for Harris, it's 55.76) The largest contributor to Trump's campaign is Timothy Mellon, at $125,000,000. The largest contributor to the Harris campaign, which was not an individual, donated under $60,000,000. (Go to 'Contributors') There were 501,229 Trump donors and 2,224,602 Harris donors. So Trump supporters donated an average of $1,956 and Harris about $620 (counting all donations, from both outside and inside sources; check 'Demographics' and the 'Total Raised' row in Summary, I used the 'Combined' figure, for both). Conclusion: The data supports the opposite of your claim -- Republicans appear to be the party of economic elites, while Democrats pull from a larger base that donates smaller contributions

I wonder who the Republicans are aligned with... I can't think of an answer.

older 2y ago

It's Musk. Opposite of economic elites!

CamperBob2 2y ago
The world's wealthiest man, who has aligned himself with a billionaire property developer and reality-TV host, isn't part of the "economic elite?" Some days I just wake up on the wrong side of the rabbit hole, I guess.
- reverius42 2y ago
  I read it as sarcasm.
marcosdumay 2y ago
Well, one person does not make an entire class. But yeah, people that want him to send them some federal money... Nah, most of them seem to be on the other side too. And yet an entire party is supporting the guy. And he's getting about half of the votes. Maybe a lot of people are supporting him is secret.

bakugo 2y ago

Not the economic elites, or at least not most of them, otherwise they'd be better funded. Hope that makes sense.

Yawrehto 2y ago
Excellent point, bakugo. Let's test this. First, let's see what proportion of their contributions - measured in total dollars - are from individuals who donated under $200. For Trump, that figure is 29.65 (https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/donald-trump/candidate?id=N00023864 https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/donald-tr...) For Harris, it's 44.08 (https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/kamala-harris/candidate?id=N00036915 https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/kamala-ha...) Hmm. That's odd. Maybe we could see how much many they get from sources categorized as 'Labor' - unions and the like are unlikely to be economically elite. (Navigate to the 'Industry' tab for both.) Trump, $208,000. That's a fair bit. Harris, $31,000,000. But wait! It's possible the economic elite is funneling the money through big contributions, like PACs. So let's look at big contributions and who funded them the most (for Trump, the percent of money coming from big donors is 68.44; for Harris, it's 55.76) The largest contributor to Trump's campaign is Timothy Mellon, at $125,000,000. The largest contributor to the Harris campaign, which was not an individual, donated under $60,000,000. (Go to 'Contributors') There were 501,229 Trump donors and 2,224,602 Harris donors. So Trump supporters donated an average of $1,956 and Harris about $620 (counting all donations, from both outside and inside sources; check 'Demographics' and the 'Total Raised' row in Summary, I used the 'Combined' figure, for both). Conclusion: The data supports the opposite of your claim -- Republicans appear to be the party of economic elites, while Democrats pull from a larger base that donates smaller contributions