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HN posts about this used to be 99% Pro-Zionist. There’s been a marked shift in opinion (or less bots) and I’m very, very glad that people are recognising the ex
by okokhacker 2y ago
HN posts about this used to be 99% Pro-Zionist. There’s been a marked shift in opinion (or less bots) and I’m very, very glad that people are recognising the extent of war crimes being committed by Israel.
- cutler 2y agoMaybe it's because social media has relayed the truth and Israel can no longer use its grip on western media to conceal its atrocities.
- leoh 2y ago[flagged]
- niemandhier 2y agoUnlikely, I sampled the hn users in this discussion. Most are a few years old, and have karma. Hn is not important enough to warrant a multi year psyops, so these are probably actual humans.
- leoh 2y agoThat’s not what I was suggesting.
- edanm 2y agoMaybe. Worth considering that in terms of relative size, Israel has a population of 10 million, Jews in the world number ~14 million. Whereas the Arab world, which tends to be relatively anti-Israel, numbers ~220 million. And Muslims, which tend to be anti-Israel as well, number 1.2 billion. So just in terms of number of voices, the natural pro-Israel voices [1] are vastly outnumbered by the natural anti-Israel voices. Think about how this impacts what you hear, how this impacts the votes in the UN (which is not democratic but votes are by country), how this impacts economic reactions (number of consumers), etc. [1] This is a sweeping generalization, but it is statistically true that Jews are usually pro-Israel and Arabs and Muslims are usually anti-Israel. With other religions/ethnicities it's more complicated.
- hbt 2y agoThough global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance. Western media often aligns with Israeli perspectives due to strategic alliances, lobbying influence, and media ownership dynamics, framing Israel’s actions as defensive while sidelining broader Arab or Palestinian views. Online, pro-Israel narratives are reinforced by organized digital campaigns and moderation practices that shape public discourse. Meanwhile, pro-Palestinian voices lack comparable resources and organization in Western spaces, limiting their visibility. This creates a media and digital environment where Western audiences are exposed to narratives that don’t fully represent the global spectrum of perspectives.
- edanm 2y ago> Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance. I'm not sure you're right. Isn't this a bit hard to judge without first deciding what is true and what constitutes bias? I'm fairly certain we don't agree with on either of these. Most Israelis consider things like the BBC and the NYT to be biased against Israel. Are you sure they're wrong?
- meiraleal 2y ago[flagged]
- Asparagus7426 2y agoYeah those monsters that you're imagining are a brainchild of your echo chamber.
- zionistshill 2y ago[flagged]
- meiraleal 2y agoIsn't it too shameless to create a fake named zionistshill?
- bobsmooth 2y ago>Jews control the media Bad, terrible, anti-semitic >Israel controls the media Good, woke, socially conscious
- cutler 2y agoThen again Zuck recently donated $125000 to Zaka, the Zionist org responsible for the lies about beheaded babies. Facebook also has several ex-members of the IDF's Unit 8200 on its board.
- nielsbot 2y agoWhat are you talking about? It’s woke to say Israel controls the media? The first statement is plainly anti-semitic. (Talking about a people and culture) The second is, arguably, against the Israeli state. Israel is a social and political construct. You can change your mind about being Zionist, for example. It’s not an inherent trait like skin color.
- jadtz 2y agoI think it has a lot to do with tiktok's rise to power, for the first time there is a platform that is not controlled by the west (Pro-Zionist), which would completely censor out news like Facebook and Instagram does.
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- weatherlite 2y ago99% pro Zionist ...can you show me even one example of such a post? I don't think you can.
- GaryNumanVevo 2y agoAnything critical of Israel is usually flagged by users and removed from the front page.
- weatherlite 2y ago[flagged]
- GaryNumanVevo 2y agoI find it curious that your only engagement on HackerNews is defending Israel and never engaging on other technical topics.
- weatherlite 2y ago[flagged]
- GaryNumanVevo 2y agoYou are posting on a forum for technical discussion.
- weatherlite 2y agoSomething tells me its my being pro Israeli that actually bothers you and not my ratio of tech to non tech engagement... Also - genuinely curious what made you click on this article? And then engage me in it? If you're here only for tech news that is.
- rendall 2y agoThis very post would seem to belie that. In fact, the only times Israel ever rises to the front page is when the article is biased and critical, as is this one. The only posts labeled "flagged" here are those who are nuanced about Israel at all with the exception of one overtly anti-Semitic post.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoIs there actual evidence than hearsay? Cameras are everywhere. It should be trivial to prove these claims.
- stiltzkin 2y ago[dead]
- cmilton 2y agoJust as well as it could be “less bots” promoting one side, to “more bots” promoting the other. What types of war would you not consider a crime?