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Does this mean it is also legal to lend licences? Someone should create a service for 'this is my licence but when I'm not using it, my friends can'....

sageikosa 14y ago
Do I need to license it on every machine I own? OK, how about if I know I am the only user (to put aside the case where I fiscally own every machine my kids use), and will only be using it on one machine at a time?
- sycren 14y ago
  The licences from the Apple Mac App store works that way. You can install as many apps as you like on any number of machines as long as you own them.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
    "Any" number of machines? I don't own a Mac, but surely it's similar to the iTunes Store and its 5 activated machines?
  - sageikosa 14y ago
    That's how I used to treat my copy of Turbo Pascal. I was the only one who used it, either at home, or in the engineering firm I worked summers at. Borland had a "treat it like a book" license, and I was the only one I knew who'd use the software, so I didn't uninstall it when I left for the day and re-install it in the morning.
pbhjpbhj 14y ago
I think, provided it is not technically possible for you to simultaneously use the software that you could sell it for a short period and then buy it back but you're not normally given a license to lend a work (it's usually specifically disclaimed) so the original acquirer wouldn't be able to pass on such a right (as they don't have it). This could lead to rulings on what a "sale" is. http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=124564&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=5223284 http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&#38... gives a summary thus: >It follows from the foregoing that the answer to Questions 1 and 3 is that Articles 4(2) and 5(1) of Directive 2009/24 must be interpreted as meaning that, in the event of the resale of a user licence entailing the resale of a copy of a computer program downloaded from the copyright holder’s website, that licence having originally been granted by that rightholder to the first acquirer for an unlimited period in return for payment of a fee intended to enable the rightholder to obtain a remuneration corresponding to the economic value of that copy of his work, the second acquirer of the licence, as well as any subsequent acquirer of it, will be able to rely on the exhaustion of the distribution right under Article 4(2) of that directive, and hence be regarded as lawful acquirers of a copy of a computer program within the meaning of Article 5(1) of that directive and benefit from the right of reproduction provided for in that provision. //

sageikosa 14y ago

Do I need to license it on every machine I own? OK, how about if I know I am the only user (to put aside the case where I fiscally own every machine my kids use), and will only be using it on one machine at a time?

sycren 14y ago
The licences from the Apple Mac App store works that way. You can install as many apps as you like on any number of machines as long as you own them.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
  "Any" number of machines? I don't own a Mac, but surely it's similar to the iTunes Store and its 5 activated machines?
- sageikosa 14y ago
  That's how I used to treat my copy of Turbo Pascal. I was the only one who used it, either at home, or in the engineering firm I worked summers at. Borland had a "treat it like a book" license, and I was the only one I knew who'd use the software, so I didn't uninstall it when I left for the day and re-install it in the morning.

pbhjpbhj 14y ago

I think, provided it is not technically possible for you to simultaneously use the software that you could sell it for a short period and then buy it back but you're not normally given a license to lend a work (it's usually specifically disclaimed) so the original acquirer wouldn't be able to pass on such a right (as they don't have it). This could lead to rulings on what a "sale" is. http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=124564&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=5223284 http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&#38... gives a summary thus: >It follows from the foregoing that the answer to Questions 1 and 3 is that Articles 4(2) and 5(1) of Directive 2009/24 must be interpreted as meaning that, in the event of the resale of a user licence entailing the resale of a copy of a computer program downloaded from the copyright holder’s website, that licence having originally been granted by that rightholder to the first acquirer for an unlimited period in return for payment of a fee intended to enable the rightholder to obtain a remuneration corresponding to the economic value of that copy of his work, the second acquirer of the licence, as well as any subsequent acquirer of it, will be able to rely on the exhaustion of the distribution right under Article 4(2) of that directive, and hence be regarded as lawful acquirers of a copy of a computer program within the meaning of Article 5(1) of that directive and benefit from the right of reproduction provided for in that provision. //