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What are the repercussions? If there is no reaction from the international community, did this action really happen?

by vaidhy 2y ago

decremental 2y ago
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tstrimple 2y ago
Every reaction from the international community is vetoed by the United States of America. A veto power it has used on behalf of Israel to protect it from international scrutiny more than it has for literally any other country on earth. Over half of all US vetoes in the Security Council have been on behalf of Israel. https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/how-us-has-used-its-power-un-support-israel-decades https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/how-us-has-used-its-pow... > The U.S. has vetoed resolutions critical of Israel more than any other council member – 45 times as of December 18, 2023, according to an analysis by Blue Marble. The U.S. has vetoed 89 Security Council resolutions in total since 1945, meaning slightly over half of its vetoes have been used on resolutions critical of Israel. Of the vetoed resolutions, 33 pertained to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories or the country’s treatment of the Palestinian people. > The first time the U.S. used its veto to support Israel was in September of 1972, when it vetoed a resolution that called on Israel to cease its aggression in Lebanon.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
  There's a mechanism for bypassing the Security Council by the GA during deadlocks caused by vetoes (Emergency Special Sessions convened under Uniting for Peace—5 of the 11 convened so far have concerned the Arab/Israeli conflict, including one of the two that is currently open, which is now on its 27th year), but no combination of countries otherwise willing to act to constrain the conflict has the capacity to effectively act against both Iran and its proxies and the Israel (directly) backed by the US.
  - cma 2y ago
    There is no enforcement power for outcomes of those.
    - dragonwriter 2y ago
      There is the same enforcement power as there is for Security Council resolutions, the coordinated action of member states. UNEF, the first UN peacekeeping mission, was deployed under a GA resolution passed under Uniting for Peace in an Emergency Special Session called due to British and French vetoes creating a deadlock over the Suez Crisis.
NomDePlum 2y ago
Did what action actually happen? Those reported in the article? If so, clearly yes. They've been widely reported and confirmed repeatedly. The initial international outrage appears to have subsided. I'd guess partly mainly due to the obvious support of the US, who gave up on being outraged when it became obvious there was no one listening on the Israeli side.
- g-b-r 2y ago
  Well, they might have listened if the weapon sales stopped

What are the repercussions? If there is no reaction from the international community, did this action really happen?

by vaidhy 2y ago

What are the repercussions? If there is no reaction from the international community, did this action really happen?

decremental 2y ago

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tstrimple 2y ago

Every reaction from the international community is vetoed by the United States of America. A veto power it has used on behalf of Israel to protect it from international scrutiny more than it has for literally any other country on earth. Over half of all US vetoes in the Security Council have been on behalf of Israel. https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/how-us-has-used-its-power-un-support-israel-decades https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/how-us-has-used-its-pow... > The U.S. has vetoed resolutions critical of Israel more than any other council member – 45 times as of December 18, 2023, according to an analysis by Blue Marble. The U.S. has vetoed 89 Security Council resolutions in total since 1945, meaning slightly over half of its vetoes have been used on resolutions critical of Israel. Of the vetoed resolutions, 33 pertained to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories or the country’s treatment of the Palestinian people. > The first time the U.S. used its veto to support Israel was in September of 1972, when it vetoed a resolution that called on Israel to cease its aggression in Lebanon.

dragonwriter 2y ago
There's a mechanism for bypassing the Security Council by the GA during deadlocks caused by vetoes (Emergency Special Sessions convened under Uniting for Peace—5 of the 11 convened so far have concerned the Arab/Israeli conflict, including one of the two that is currently open, which is now on its 27th year), but no combination of countries otherwise willing to act to constrain the conflict has the capacity to effectively act against both Iran and its proxies and the Israel (directly) backed by the US.
- cma 2y ago
  There is no enforcement power for outcomes of those.
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    There is the same enforcement power as there is for Security Council resolutions, the coordinated action of member states. UNEF, the first UN peacekeeping mission, was deployed under a GA resolution passed under Uniting for Peace in an Emergency Special Session called due to British and French vetoes creating a deadlock over the Suez Crisis.

NomDePlum 2y ago

Did what action actually happen? Those reported in the article? If so, clearly yes. They've been widely reported and confirmed repeatedly. The initial international outrage appears to have subsided. I'd guess partly mainly due to the obvious support of the US, who gave up on being outraged when it became obvious there was no one listening on the Israeli side.

g-b-r 2y ago
Well, they might have listened if the weapon sales stopped