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Nevermind that if this were put to some kind of national popular vote it would pass overwhelmingly.

• dctoedt 2y ago
  > Nevermind that if this were put to some kind of national popular vote it would pass overwhelmingly. But it's typical of big industry groups to try to block any kind of regulatory- or legislative action that inhibits them from doing what they want.
  • WillPostForFood 2y ago
    It is also typical of big industry groups to support tons of regulation, because only big industry can afford to comply, and it keeps competition out.
• Sakos 2y ago
  I feel like that's too over-confident. They'll just do what corporations have been doing for decades. Invest in PR that paints this as protecting the American way and American values, and all the other nonsense corporations will use to convince voters to vote against their best interests.
  • johnnyanmac 2y ago
    maybe I'm unusually optimistic, but I feel struggling with a BS subscription is a fairly bipartisan and universal experience here. It's not quite like how you can sell to the affluent how they deserve more and there are leechers taking from society. The leeches are the subscription companies.
• kelnos 2y ago
  Given that half the country loves the party that is anti-regulation, "small" government, I don't think you have your finger on the pulse of the nation, so to speak. Not only would many people in the US be against this on principle ("the feds should stop meddling", "the free market will sort it out"), but the companies in question would invest lots of money into propaganda that many, many people would fall for.
  • briandear 2y ago
    I am a small government advocate. The problem with cable companies is that they enjoy near monopoly status. That’s not free market.
    • FactKnower69 2y ago
      Hahaha, what? The "Free Market" is when the government forcibly breaks up large firms? Incredible
      • therealdrag0 2y ago
        What are you even responding to? Who said anything about breaking up firms?
  • idle_zealot 2y ago
    My interpretation is that most people supporting that party may have bought into deregulation rhetoric, but would vote for any specific regulation that curbs a behavior they personally dislike unless a more stout believer talked them out of it.
  • hn_version_0023 2y ago
    The people you’re referring to, aka Republican voters, are mainly being led around by the nose. To be more specific, it’s my view that they view politics as a team sport and as entertainment and don’t think through their positions. These people would be against maintaining their own lives if the Dems were for it.
    • sitkack 2y ago
      I know a couple democrats that wear seatbelts, wash their hands and take the flu vaccine.
    • kulahan 2y ago
      The people he's referring to are probably best described as libertarian. "Republican" has been abused so much as a word (Democrat, too) that it's effectively useless to describe anything these days anyways. Case in point: you're using it here to describe people who are not particularly wise to propaganda, which has nothing to do with the word at all. You're probably referring to social conservatives, but it's always hard to tell if comments like these are meant to be a strawman on purpose or not.
• dfxm12 2y ago
  When you hear about situations like this, where something useful and popular nation-wide gets shut down under the guise of deregulation, the tenth amendment, states' rights, etc., it's never about self determination. It's about this, letting people with lifetime appointments decide the law of the land. It goes from big issues, like cannabis, reproductive rights, gun control, all the way down to common sense consumer protections like this. That's why I'm weary about about politicians who thump "states' rights" & "self determination", but never seem to put forward any big ticket ballot propositions.
  • mlindner 2y ago
    In general the courts shouldn't be pushing big ticket ballot propositions... That isn't their place. The reason they're not elected is explicitly so they can't be (to the maximum extent possible) affected by the ballot box. A lot of people seem to forget but the maximum amount of democracy isn't the best. Mob rule is not a good system of government.
    • Forgeties79 2y ago
      “Mob rule” is often just this hand wavy argument a party invokes when it wants to force its unpopular positions on the rest of the country or, in the GOP’s case, to defend the electoral college which gives them disproportionate political power. When did Mitch McConnell say “the American people should decide,” aka the “mob”? When he wanted to block a SCOTUS appointment for almost a year. Suddenly the mob was wrong when the shoe was on the other foot and the window of time was barely over a month. Good faith “mob rule” arguments are rare. It’s mostly just an easy appeal to shut down otherwise valid arguments.
      • mlindner 2y ago
        No "mob rule" is a direct democracy system that is effectively tyranny of the majority. That system does not and cannot work. All forms of practical democracy are some measure away from that, to varying degrees. Secondly, the electoral college does not give the GOP disproportionate political power. That's a misunderstanding of how it works.
• rodgerd 2y ago
  Put it to a nationwide vote and you'll watch the money flow into the ad campaigns and half your friends will start telling you how important it is to smash the "regulatory shadow state" and "unelected bureaucrats" or whatever the talking points are.