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In Japan there was a requirement to make a noise when taking a picture on a phone. I'm not a huge fan of that since there are a lot of reasonable reasons to not

In Japan there was a requirement to make a noise when taking a picture on a phone. I'm not a huge fan of that since there are a lot of reasonable reasons to not want noise, but I would be a fan if any capture device was require to advertise its presence wirelessly to make it easy for any smart device to notice an active recording device nearby. That wouldn't stop sophisticated surveillance but it would act like a cheap lock and stop a lot of the abusive stuff, or at least let people more quickly notice it.

RamboRogers 2y ago
This Device lights up pretty good on wireless or cellular data transfer. If my wife starts browsing on her phone it lights up.
rahimnathwani 2y ago
> but I would be a fan if any capture device was require to advertise its presence wirelessly to make it easy for any smart device to notice an active recording device nearby That would be convenient for burglars or dishonest cops.
- sriram_malhar 2y ago
  Dang. Never thought of that. No free lunch, eh?
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  A burglar isn't deterred by a camera though. I mean for this use case they'd already be inside. Cameras don't prevent nor solve crime, at best they're for legal purposes if someone is caught, or for insurance claims.
  - kube-system 2y ago
    That sentiment has selection bias built in. Anyone who commits any crime wasn't deterred by everything. It is, however, factual that people choose to behave differently when they know they are being recorded. That might mean choosing not to commit a crime, commit it elsewhere, destroying a camera, or wearing a mask. While a functional camera can't prevent crime, it can identify those who commit them.
  - ted_dunning 2y ago
    Actually, there is a rise of burglars going in with Wifi jammers to stop cameras. So, yeah, I would think that is evidence that they care about cameras. https://www.nj.com/morris/2024/06/burglars-are-using-wi-fi-jamming-devices-in-alarming-new-trend-nj-cops-say.html https://www.nj.com/morris/2024/06/burglars-are-using-wi-fi-j...
ddingus 2y ago
Of course nefarious actors will ignore the requirement and or hack their gear.
- b112 2y ago
  There is an upside though. An additional criminal charge, and making it easier to prove intent. (Note I said easier, not just "prove", for it is indeed only easier.)

RamboRogers 2y ago

This Device lights up pretty good on wireless or cellular data transfer. If my wife starts browsing on her phone it lights up.

rahimnathwani 2y ago

> but I would be a fan if any capture device was require to advertise its presence wirelessly to make it easy for any smart device to notice an active recording device nearby That would be convenient for burglars or dishonest cops.

sriram_malhar 2y ago
Dang. Never thought of that. No free lunch, eh?
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
A burglar isn't deterred by a camera though. I mean for this use case they'd already be inside. Cameras don't prevent nor solve crime, at best they're for legal purposes if someone is caught, or for insurance claims.
- kube-system 2y ago
  That sentiment has selection bias built in. Anyone who commits any crime wasn't deterred by everything. It is, however, factual that people choose to behave differently when they know they are being recorded. That might mean choosing not to commit a crime, commit it elsewhere, destroying a camera, or wearing a mask. While a functional camera can't prevent crime, it can identify those who commit them.
- ted_dunning 2y ago
  Actually, there is a rise of burglars going in with Wifi jammers to stop cameras. So, yeah, I would think that is evidence that they care about cameras. https://www.nj.com/morris/2024/06/burglars-are-using-wi-fi-jamming-devices-in-alarming-new-trend-nj-cops-say.html https://www.nj.com/morris/2024/06/burglars-are-using-wi-fi-j...

ddingus 2y ago

Of course nefarious actors will ignore the requirement and or hack their gear.

b112 2y ago
There is an upside though. An additional criminal charge, and making it easier to prove intent. (Note I said easier, not just "prove", for it is indeed only easier.)