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The article is a snapshot of the discussion that's still happening on the mailing list. Linus later responded with: >No, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not goin
by v1ne 2y ago
The article is a snapshot of the discussion that's still happening on the mailing list.
Linus later responded with:
>No, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to go into the details that
I - and other maintainers - were told by lawyers.
>I'm also not going to start discussing legal issues with random
internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have
been riled up by them.
- llm_trw 2y ago>I'm also not going to start discussing legal issues with random internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have been riled up by them. Oh boy, everyone who disagrees with me works for the Kremlin.
- ruthmarx 2y agoI mean, it's likely not just deflection/paranoia in his case.
- llm_trw 2y ago[flagged]
- ruthmarx 2y agoHow did you extrapolate 'everyone' from my sentence saying 'for his'?
- llm_trw 2y agoBecause you're replying to my post where I said everyone?
- ruthmarx 2y agoNot a great answer since I was saying your claim specifically didn't apply to him, i.e. one person. Look at the logic of this conversation, a paraphrased version of the actual one we had: --- Submission: Jack the firefighter says x You: All people who say x must be crazy or being paid Me: In this case Jack's claims likely have merit You: So anyone that says x is paid? Where's my check? --- You see how that doesn't track, right?
- llm_trw 2y agoSubmission: Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian shill. Me: It's stupid to claim that everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian shill. You: Spends five posts aggressively misunderstanding what I've said.
- ruthmarx 2y agoSigh. I didn't misunderstand anything, I specifically said in this particular instance his claims might be valid, in contrast to your outright dismissal of them. What a frustrating and pointless discussion because you were so set on misunderstanding something so simple. No wonder your comments are getting flagged. Good luck to you.
- consumer451 2y agoHe covers this in TFA: > And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.
- llm_trw 2y agoIt'd be nice to list what those "various compliance requirements" are on a public open source project.
- markvdb 2y agoAt least part of that might very well be illegal.
- llm_trw 2y agoThen it sounds like public open source projects are now illegal in the US. We should act accordingly.
- michaelmrose 2y agoAlternatively we can continue like normal because not much of value will be lost. Git is inherently decentralized. If A requires work by C they can pull it directly or B can pull from C and A from B. There is no inherent issue with C's contributions coming in by way of B especially if B vetted and examined said contributions personally.
- consumer451 2y agoPlease see the legal reason in the sibling comment.
- fragmede 2y agoNot open source specific, but: > Treasury, in consultation with the Department of State, has issued a new determination under Executive Order (E.O.) 14071, which prohibits the supply to any person in the Russian Federation of (1) IT consultancy and design services; and (2) IT support services and cloud-based services for enterprise management software and design and manufacturing software. The determination will take effect on September 12, 2024. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2404#:~:text=14071%2C%20which%20prohibits%20the%20supply,effect%20on%20September%2012%2C%202024 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2404#:~:text....
- g-b-r 2y agoBeing riled up doesn't mean being paid, there are millions mired in their disinformation and manipulation operations
- hulitu 2y agoIt certanly looks like. This is, unfortunately, not the Linus i knew from lkml. Anyway, it is a good alarm signal about open source (especially after npm and xz). In the end we are all amunition. /s
- ruthmarx 2y ago> It certanly looks like. With what's been going on in the world and with Russia, it really doesn't. That's the thing.
- vidarh 2y ago> and/or have been riled up by them. Maybe don't blatantly misrepresent what he wrote, even if you still disagree with it.
- t0bia_s 2y agoLabeling shows lacks of argument.
- tim333 2y agoThere are in reality a lot of people who work for the Kremlin or have been riled up by them. I'm not sure he's that paranoid to suspect that.
- Jomamadidit 2y ago[flagged]