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I agree that Apple isn't great about marketing it's shows, but part of the issue is that their shows just aren't that good. I imagine if you're into the Apple e

I agree that Apple isn't great about marketing it's shows, but part of the issue is that their shows just aren't that good. I imagine if you're into the Apple ecosystem, you probably get ads for them, but from the outside, it's crickets. I subscribed literally for Ted Lasso and have debated canceling every month since I finished it.

nicoco 2y ago
Severance is excellent, for all mankind was decent. Other ones I've watched were quitte bad indeed.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  I agree that Severance was good. I suppose they'll come out with a new season right about the time I think about canceling again. I have also been watching Shrinking, but it's not really enough to keep me on the platform. Apple's content seems to be getting well known actors and then putting them into random shows and hoping that people will find out about them via word of mouth or something. There is also basically no back catalog worth watching like there is with other streaming services.
- ssijak 2y ago
  Tiny world is amazing
skhunted 2y ago
I believe Apple has some fantastic shows. Severance, Tehran, Silo, Slow Horses, Liason, Physical, For All Mankind (season 1).
- AndroidKitKat 2y ago
  If you haven't already, check out Dark Matter, too!
  - skhunted 2y ago
    I will. Thanks.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  I agree that Severance was good, but it came out in 2022, and the next season isn't coming out until 2025. Shrinking is another I like, but it came out in early 2023 and just started season 2 this month. I wanted to like Silo, having read the books, but something from the trailer just makes it seem off. I'll probably get around to watching it eventually assuming I don't cancel soon. The others don't appeal to me. I think if you're ok watching the content weekly and only watch an hour or two, if feels like there is content there, but if you binge like most people who stream do, there is hardly anything there. Most people would probably be better off to subscribe for a month or two a year and cancel the rest of the time.
hinkley 2y ago
If you think Ted Lasso is a bad show, there is something broken in you and we can’t be friends.
- jjtheblunt 2y ago
  that's not fair, even though i know you're kidding. personally i'm tired of jason sudeikis.
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  There's a popular if snarky narrative that Ted Lasso started out as a straightforward comedy and then became too enraptured with character trauma-drama schmaltz. When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2, people mocked it by likening it to Ted Lasso.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    >When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2 Honestly, that seems to be part of the playbook for almost every show now. I wonder if people just didn't notice it much until the Bear or Ted Lasso, or maybe just because it's more of an abrupt departure from the main story line in those shows instead of just being a b-plot part of a normal episode.
n42 2y ago
Apple is currently my favorite for content, so to each their own I guess.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  What content? They have almost none. Granted with the segmentation in the streaming market, none of the big players have much going on, but at least you can usually find something to watch on the others. Once you catch up with the 2 or 3 interesting ones on Apple Tv, there is basically nothing to watch.
  - rgreasons 2y ago
    They have much less content, but if you value quality over quantity, I don't think that's an issue. When I look at the Apple TV+ catalog, I can see myself giving an honest shake to _most_ of their content. I simply can't say the same for other services. I understand why they are flooding the zone if they have the resources, but there's a finite amount of content one human can watch. If Apple releases 50 shows and 80% are up my alley, I get the same amount of enjoyable content as Netflix releasing 400 shows but only 10% are worth my time.
    - Suppafly 2y ago
      I think my issue is that it's not 80% up my alley. I see a bunch of decent looking shows that are probably good for their audience, I'm just not their audience. But even for stuff where I'm their audience, they often feel to be lacking something.
  - n42 2y ago
    This includes movies, but browsing their "originals" list, so far I (or my wife) have enjoyed (in no particular order): Slow Horses Lessons in Chemistry Severance Ted Lasso Shrinking Mythic Quest Roar CODA The Problem with John Stewart And we are looking forward to checking out, in no particular order: Palm Royale For All Mankind Criminal Record Killers of the Flower Moon Foundation Strange Planet The Morning Show Greyhound They're not all knockout hits. Overall we just feel safer trying something new there. If we don't like it, it's usually just because it's not for us, and less because it feels like an algorithmic, soulless cash grab.
bluetidepro 2y ago
> "...but part of the issue is that their shows just aren't that good..." Hard disagree from a personal view. Also statistically, I don't think you can strongly claim this since many of their shows have lots of awards if you go off that metric. I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks. That is probably true, but only because they have so little content overall. It is nice that it's not choke full of low budget reality nonsense and foreign stuff, but they also have basically none of the back catalog of content that other services have.
23B1 2y ago
Their content generally fits the mix of other streamers. "Not good" is the most subjective of statements when it comes to film and television.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants. That's a good point. Plus it's not like I can't resubscribe later and catch up on everything again.
zackymacky 2y ago
> [...] their shows just aren't that good. Really hard to agree with this. The shows I've enjoyed most recently are primarily on Apple. Slow Horses, Ted Lasso, Severance, Silo, Dark Matter, Foundation. And, unlike Netflix, Apple seems willing to bring back well regarded shows for a second season, instead of canceling for something new.
szszrk 2y ago
It's subjective. Most of my friends and colleagues stopped using Netflix as soon as sharing accounts were messed with. It was just not worth it. While Apple has a lot of great or at least decent sci-fi (or close) shows from past few years. I don't use Apple equipment at all, it's unpopular here, but Apple TV subscription was the only thing from them I really though may be worth it. Also shows on each platform are largely different depending on country, to the point where it's a pathetic fraction of what US has. It puts Apple TV in a bit better light.
ArchOversight 2y ago
The Morning Show, Severance, Silo, Tehran, Presumed Innocent, Ted Lasso, Slow Horses, Disclaimer, Shrinking, Loot, Severance, Where's Wanda?, Foundation, Cowboy Cartel (short documentary), Midnight Family, The Last Thing He Told Me, Invasion, Mythic Quest, Bad Monkey, Dickinson... There's so many good shows on Apple TV.
- wvenable 2y ago
  So you've had about 5 years to watch 20 good shows. I've seen a bunch of these long ago. After that, what's left?

nicoco 2y ago

Severance is excellent, for all mankind was decent. Other ones I've watched were quitte bad indeed.

Suppafly 2y ago
I agree that Severance was good. I suppose they'll come out with a new season right about the time I think about canceling again. I have also been watching Shrinking, but it's not really enough to keep me on the platform. Apple's content seems to be getting well known actors and then putting them into random shows and hoping that people will find out about them via word of mouth or something. There is also basically no back catalog worth watching like there is with other streaming services.
ssijak 2y ago
Tiny world is amazing

skhunted 2y ago

I believe Apple has some fantastic shows. Severance, Tehran, Silo, Slow Horses, Liason, Physical, For All Mankind (season 1).

AndroidKitKat 2y ago
If you haven't already, check out Dark Matter, too!
- skhunted 2y ago
  I will. Thanks.
Suppafly 2y ago
I agree that Severance was good, but it came out in 2022, and the next season isn't coming out until 2025. Shrinking is another I like, but it came out in early 2023 and just started season 2 this month. I wanted to like Silo, having read the books, but something from the trailer just makes it seem off. I'll probably get around to watching it eventually assuming I don't cancel soon. The others don't appeal to me. I think if you're ok watching the content weekly and only watch an hour or two, if feels like there is content there, but if you binge like most people who stream do, there is hardly anything there. Most people would probably be better off to subscribe for a month or two a year and cancel the rest of the time.

hinkley 2y ago

If you think Ted Lasso is a bad show, there is something broken in you and we can’t be friends.

jjtheblunt 2y ago
that's not fair, even though i know you're kidding. personally i'm tired of jason sudeikis.
Apocryphon 2y ago
There's a popular if snarky narrative that Ted Lasso started out as a straightforward comedy and then became too enraptured with character trauma-drama schmaltz. When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2, people mocked it by likening it to Ted Lasso.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2 Honestly, that seems to be part of the playbook for almost every show now. I wonder if people just didn't notice it much until the Bear or Ted Lasso, or maybe just because it's more of an abrupt departure from the main story line in those shows instead of just being a b-plot part of a normal episode.

n42 2y ago

Apple is currently my favorite for content, so to each their own I guess.

Suppafly 2y ago
What content? They have almost none. Granted with the segmentation in the streaming market, none of the big players have much going on, but at least you can usually find something to watch on the others. Once you catch up with the 2 or 3 interesting ones on Apple Tv, there is basically nothing to watch.
- rgreasons 2y ago
  They have much less content, but if you value quality over quantity, I don't think that's an issue. When I look at the Apple TV+ catalog, I can see myself giving an honest shake to _most_ of their content. I simply can't say the same for other services. I understand why they are flooding the zone if they have the resources, but there's a finite amount of content one human can watch. If Apple releases 50 shows and 80% are up my alley, I get the same amount of enjoyable content as Netflix releasing 400 shows but only 10% are worth my time.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    I think my issue is that it's not 80% up my alley. I see a bunch of decent looking shows that are probably good for their audience, I'm just not their audience. But even for stuff where I'm their audience, they often feel to be lacking something.
- n42 2y ago
  This includes movies, but browsing their "originals" list, so far I (or my wife) have enjoyed (in no particular order): Slow Horses Lessons in Chemistry Severance Ted Lasso Shrinking Mythic Quest Roar CODA The Problem with John Stewart And we are looking forward to checking out, in no particular order: Palm Royale For All Mankind Criminal Record Killers of the Flower Moon Foundation Strange Planet The Morning Show Greyhound They're not all knockout hits. Overall we just feel safer trying something new there. If we don't like it, it's usually just because it's not for us, and less because it feels like an algorithmic, soulless cash grab.

bluetidepro 2y ago

> "...but part of the issue is that their shows just aren't that good..." Hard disagree from a personal view. Also statistically, I don't think you can strongly claim this since many of their shows have lots of awards if you go off that metric. I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks.

Suppafly 2y ago
>I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks. That is probably true, but only because they have so little content overall. It is nice that it's not choke full of low budget reality nonsense and foreign stuff, but they also have basically none of the back catalog of content that other services have.

23B1 2y ago

Their content generally fits the mix of other streamers. "Not good" is the most subjective of statements when it comes to film and television.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago

Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants.

Suppafly 2y ago
>Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants. That's a good point. Plus it's not like I can't resubscribe later and catch up on everything again.

zackymacky 2y ago

> [...] their shows just aren't that good. Really hard to agree with this. The shows I've enjoyed most recently are primarily on Apple. Slow Horses, Ted Lasso, Severance, Silo, Dark Matter, Foundation. And, unlike Netflix, Apple seems willing to bring back well regarded shows for a second season, instead of canceling for something new.

szszrk 2y ago

It's subjective. Most of my friends and colleagues stopped using Netflix as soon as sharing accounts were messed with. It was just not worth it. While Apple has a lot of great or at least decent sci-fi (or close) shows from past few years. I don't use Apple equipment at all, it's unpopular here, but Apple TV subscription was the only thing from them I really though may be worth it. Also shows on each platform are largely different depending on country, to the point where it's a pathetic fraction of what US has. It puts Apple TV in a bit better light.

ArchOversight 2y ago

The Morning Show, Severance, Silo, Tehran, Presumed Innocent, Ted Lasso, Slow Horses, Disclaimer, Shrinking, Loot, Severance, Where's Wanda?, Foundation, Cowboy Cartel (short documentary), Midnight Family, The Last Thing He Told Me, Invasion, Mythic Quest, Bad Monkey, Dickinson... There's so many good shows on Apple TV.

wvenable 2y ago
So you've had about 5 years to watch 20 good shows. I've seen a bunch of these long ago. After that, what's left?