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This product will go the way of the Apple Watch. Deemed a failure before eventually becoming the category leader about 3 years and 3 iterations later. The pri

This product will go the way of the Apple Watch. Deemed a failure before eventually becoming the category leader about 3 years and 3 iterations later. The price will come down, the (few) hardware rough edges will be softened, and enough support from the massive iOS developer pool will create a “killer app” that starts to build momentum here. Misleading FUD from Macrumors trying to get clicks.

rchaud 2y ago
All of those things could happen, and it still wouldn't go beyond Oculus Quest levels of popularity, i.e. low. Apple Watch is a status symbol in the same way Airpods and iPhones are. You're paying partially to be seen wearing them. The same is not true for Vision Pro or any headset. You'll just look like a Alamy stock image that comes up in an image search for 'technology'.
- disqard 2y ago
  I'm trying to be charitable, but I agree with this take (instead of the "eventually succeed" comment above). Anecdotally, when I go to a restaurant, the server is often wearing an Apple Watch. I cannot extrapolate what that would look like for AVP...
vehemenz 2y ago
Possibly, but I don't think it's comparable because VR/AR headsets—whatever this category is—still has an unknown future. Smart watches had demonstrated use cases and a market before Apple released the Apple Watch. The Vision Pro is more like smart glasses, a category that still can't find a foothold 10+ years after the Google Glass.
steveBK123 2y ago
I've had the watch since v1 and I've almost gone full circle on it. Never had sound on, have disabled more and more notifications, steadily fewer and fewer complications until I finally just use the the silly Snoopy watch face instead. What I do love it for is all the health tracking, and that I have about a decade of data on myself now. Really just activity level and resting heart rate primarily. I'm at the point that I'd be similar (or, maybe more?) for a display-less slim Apple Fitness Band loaded with all the sensors of the Apple Watch.. and then go back to my analog wristwatch.
deergomoo 2y ago
> and enough support from the massive iOS developer pool will create a “killer app” that starts to build momentum here Apple certainly hasn’t helped themselves here by burning so much developer goodwill over the last few years. They may be marketing it as a “Pro” device currently but one of the biggest selling points seems to be immersive video, and Netflix and YouTube both saying no to developing an app for it is not a good look. On the indie side, in just the last few days I’ve seen multiple Mastodon posts from developers regretting building a visionOS app [0] or considering preventing running their existing iPad apps on visionOS. [1][2] [0] https://mastodon.social/@harshil/113350016890131979 https://mastodon.social/@harshil/113350016890131979 [1] https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113351442738668432 https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113351442738668432 [2] https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113356843080972068 https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113356843080972068

rchaud 2y ago

All of those things could happen, and it still wouldn't go beyond Oculus Quest levels of popularity, i.e. low. Apple Watch is a status symbol in the same way Airpods and iPhones are. You're paying partially to be seen wearing them. The same is not true for Vision Pro or any headset. You'll just look like a Alamy stock image that comes up in an image search for 'technology'.

disqard 2y ago
I'm trying to be charitable, but I agree with this take (instead of the "eventually succeed" comment above). Anecdotally, when I go to a restaurant, the server is often wearing an Apple Watch. I cannot extrapolate what that would look like for AVP...

vehemenz 2y ago

Possibly, but I don't think it's comparable because VR/AR headsets—whatever this category is—still has an unknown future. Smart watches had demonstrated use cases and a market before Apple released the Apple Watch. The Vision Pro is more like smart glasses, a category that still can't find a foothold 10+ years after the Google Glass.

steveBK123 2y ago

I've had the watch since v1 and I've almost gone full circle on it. Never had sound on, have disabled more and more notifications, steadily fewer and fewer complications until I finally just use the the silly Snoopy watch face instead. What I do love it for is all the health tracking, and that I have about a decade of data on myself now. Really just activity level and resting heart rate primarily. I'm at the point that I'd be similar (or, maybe more?) for a display-less slim Apple Fitness Band loaded with all the sensors of the Apple Watch.. and then go back to my analog wristwatch.

deergomoo 2y ago

> and enough support from the massive iOS developer pool will create a “killer app” that starts to build momentum here Apple certainly hasn’t helped themselves here by burning so much developer goodwill over the last few years. They may be marketing it as a “Pro” device currently but one of the biggest selling points seems to be immersive video, and Netflix and YouTube both saying no to developing an app for it is not a good look. On the indie side, in just the last few days I’ve seen multiple Mastodon posts from developers regretting building a visionOS app [0] or considering preventing running their existing iPad apps on visionOS. [1][2] [0] https://mastodon.social/@harshil/113350016890131979 https://mastodon.social/@harshil/113350016890131979 [1] https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113351442738668432 https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113351442738668432 [2] https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113356843080972068 https://mastodon.social/@marcoarment/113356843080972068