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Everyone's going to have to buy a Pixel phone, ahahahahaahahha.

gruez 2y ago
Samsung phones are presumably firm as well. They recently switched to snapdragon (qualcomm) chips but before they were using exynos (samsung) chips.
- devsda 2y ago
  Samsung still uses qualcomm in US markets and exynos outside US even for their flagships.
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- jsheard 2y ago
  Samsung phones use both, in a very literal sense. Their flagship devices usually have both Snapdragon and Exynos variants for different regions, and their lower end devices are mostly Exynos across the board. The S23 line was an exception in using Snapdragon worldwide, but then the S24 line switched back to using Snapdragon in NA and Exynos everywhere else, except for the S24 Ultra which is still Snapdragon everywhere. Yes it's a confusing mess, and it's arguably misleading when the predominantly NA-based tech reviewers and influencers get the usually superior QCOM variant, and promote it to a global audience who may get a completely different SOC when they buy the "same" device.
  - MBCook 2y ago
    Is the Qualcomm chip still considered significantly better than the Exynos? I remember that was the case a few years ago.
    - kijin 2y ago
      Last time I checked, the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon was faster and more energy efficient than the latest Exynos. Especially the top-binned chips that Samsung gets. Still, the fact that Samsung can swap out the chip in their flagship product with virtually no change other than slightly different benchmark scores means that these chips are pretty much fungible. If either manufacturer runs into serious problems, the other one is ready to eat their market share for lunch.
    - delfinom 2y ago
      Yes, Exynos is still behind in performance and thermals. Exynos modems are also still garbage and plague Pixel phones with issues. Though slowly improving with each generation, it's awful that it's being troubleshot in public over years.

Samsung phones are presumably firm as well. They recently switched to snapdragon (qualcomm) chips but before they were using exynos (samsung) chips.

devsda 2y ago
Samsung still uses qualcomm in US markets and exynos outside US even for their flagships.
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jsheard 2y ago
Samsung phones use both, in a very literal sense. Their flagship devices usually have both Snapdragon and Exynos variants for different regions, and their lower end devices are mostly Exynos across the board. The S23 line was an exception in using Snapdragon worldwide, but then the S24 line switched back to using Snapdragon in NA and Exynos everywhere else, except for the S24 Ultra which is still Snapdragon everywhere. Yes it's a confusing mess, and it's arguably misleading when the predominantly NA-based tech reviewers and influencers get the usually superior QCOM variant, and promote it to a global audience who may get a completely different SOC when they buy the "same" device.
- MBCook 2y ago
  Is the Qualcomm chip still considered significantly better than the Exynos? I remember that was the case a few years ago.
  - kijin 2y ago
    Last time I checked, the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon was faster and more energy efficient than the latest Exynos. Especially the top-binned chips that Samsung gets. Still, the fact that Samsung can swap out the chip in their flagship product with virtually no change other than slightly different benchmark scores means that these chips are pretty much fungible. If either manufacturer runs into serious problems, the other one is ready to eat their market share for lunch.
  - delfinom 2y ago
    Yes, Exynos is still behind in performance and thermals. Exynos modems are also still garbage and plague Pixel phones with issues. Though slowly improving with each generation, it's awful that it's being troubleshot in public over years.