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Please stop trying to present information in this style of webpage, I am begging you. Besides being an abysmal way to present scientific information, every time

Please stop trying to present information in this style of webpage, I am begging you. Besides being an abysmal way to present scientific information, every time someone posts one of these it happens to be a topic I am extraordinarily interested in, but due to disabilities I have, I cannot read it even if I wasn't tremendously annoyed by it.

pmontra 2y ago
It's really bad even for me on my phone. The text content fades away before I can scroll it completely into view. No reader mode available.
- not_a_bot_4sho 2y ago
  Same here. I gave up on reading it once the diagram animations made it near impossible
selimthegrim 2y ago
How could it be made more accessible to you?
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  reader mode supported. sometimes they are sometimes no.
  - smolder 2y ago
    I was disappointed to see reader mode wasn't available, and tried to find some other plugin to just show me the text. The couple plugins I tried could not parse it, nor could the text-only browser I downloaded called ViolonCello. (It only renders header and footer text.) It's very frustrating.
- oniony 2y ago
  They could be regular web pages without the silly scroll animations, just like in the good old days.
- rmbyrro 2y ago
  Just make it a web page, not a powerpoint presentation.
mopenstein 2y ago
I liked the presentation and it worked great on my phone. I'm sorry you have issues but I'm glad the world doesn't cater to a single individual's issue. I can't swim because of a whole in my ear drum from when the Nun at the free clinic my poor mother took me to popped that bad boy with a enthusiastic squeeze from an ear syringe and my tinnitus rings like a son-of-a-bitch when I wear ear plugs but I don't demand they fill in every swimming pool with concrete. I just walk by on those hot summer days wistfully jealous of the guy doing a cannonball and the lady doing the hand stand thing where your feet are in dry air but your head is 2 feet below the water level.
- the_gipsy 2y ago
  [flagged]
- rmbyrro 2y ago
  The analogy would be more like a library forcing everyone to swim through a pool in order to read a particular book. And if you complain you have a disability, someone says that the world shouldn't cater to an individual. The analogy is ridiculous, yes. As it is ridiculous to build such a website that disabled people cannot possibly read. You don't have to make it perfect for them, just don't make it impossible.
  - unethical_ban 2y ago
    The analogy is to stop making documentary films because one cannot see or hear. Should businesses and academia strive to make information accessible? Yes. Should every piece of information be put into accessible formats, damn the art? I don't think so.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  This is an insanely weird and ableist post.
wholinator2 2y ago
I agree, this is abysmal ux. Doesn't even remotely work on my phone. All those stupid animations literally removing information from my screen before I've had a chance to read it. Drastically reducing the "reading surface" of the actual information attempting to be conveyed. Animations are cool and useful but they too could just be placed on a static page. The whole thing seems like some over excited marketing person enshittifying the literal idea of static pages of informative just to make something "new".
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  I forget which publication, might have been the new yorker, won a pulitzer prize for a long-form article written in this style. Visually it worked very well (because it was telling a story, not trying to convey information) and the scrolling graphic transitions were gentle enough that I could manage it + reader mode. Since then, it seems like other magazines have followed suit.
WantonQuantum 2y ago
If you're a reader of Quanta, there's nothing new on this page. It seems like a repackaging of some simple concepts in a pretty web format to attract a less sophisticated audience.
- 23B1 2y ago
  As a less sophisticated audienc emember, can someone PDF the thing for me my vision wetware can't grok it
phito 2y ago
I closed the page instantly after opening it. Reader view isn't even available. Sigh.
empath75 2y ago
I don't mind the format, but the article itself was basically nothing you couldn't get from 5 minutes of looking at wikipedia.

pmontra 2y ago

It's really bad even for me on my phone. The text content fades away before I can scroll it completely into view. No reader mode available.

not_a_bot_4sho 2y ago
Same here. I gave up on reading it once the diagram animations made it near impossible

selimthegrim 2y ago

How could it be made more accessible to you?

JohnMakin 2y ago
reader mode supported. sometimes they are sometimes no.
- smolder 2y ago
  I was disappointed to see reader mode wasn't available, and tried to find some other plugin to just show me the text. The couple plugins I tried could not parse it, nor could the text-only browser I downloaded called ViolonCello. (It only renders header and footer text.) It's very frustrating.
oniony 2y ago
They could be regular web pages without the silly scroll animations, just like in the good old days.
rmbyrro 2y ago
Just make it a web page, not a powerpoint presentation.

mopenstein 2y ago

I liked the presentation and it worked great on my phone. I'm sorry you have issues but I'm glad the world doesn't cater to a single individual's issue. I can't swim because of a whole in my ear drum from when the Nun at the free clinic my poor mother took me to popped that bad boy with a enthusiastic squeeze from an ear syringe and my tinnitus rings like a son-of-a-bitch when I wear ear plugs but I don't demand they fill in every swimming pool with concrete. I just walk by on those hot summer days wistfully jealous of the guy doing a cannonball and the lady doing the hand stand thing where your feet are in dry air but your head is 2 feet below the water level.

the_gipsy 2y ago
[flagged]
rmbyrro 2y ago
The analogy would be more like a library forcing everyone to swim through a pool in order to read a particular book. And if you complain you have a disability, someone says that the world shouldn't cater to an individual. The analogy is ridiculous, yes. As it is ridiculous to build such a website that disabled people cannot possibly read. You don't have to make it perfect for them, just don't make it impossible.
- unethical_ban 2y ago
  The analogy is to stop making documentary films because one cannot see or hear. Should businesses and academia strive to make information accessible? Yes. Should every piece of information be put into accessible formats, damn the art? I don't think so.
JohnMakin 2y ago
This is an insanely weird and ableist post.

wholinator2 2y ago

I agree, this is abysmal ux. Doesn't even remotely work on my phone. All those stupid animations literally removing information from my screen before I've had a chance to read it. Drastically reducing the "reading surface" of the actual information attempting to be conveyed. Animations are cool and useful but they too could just be placed on a static page. The whole thing seems like some over excited marketing person enshittifying the literal idea of static pages of informative just to make something "new".

JohnMakin 2y ago
I forget which publication, might have been the new yorker, won a pulitzer prize for a long-form article written in this style. Visually it worked very well (because it was telling a story, not trying to convey information) and the scrolling graphic transitions were gentle enough that I could manage it + reader mode. Since then, it seems like other magazines have followed suit.

WantonQuantum 2y ago

If you're a reader of Quanta, there's nothing new on this page. It seems like a repackaging of some simple concepts in a pretty web format to attract a less sophisticated audience.

23B1 2y ago
As a less sophisticated audienc emember, can someone PDF the thing for me my vision wetware can't grok it

phito 2y ago

I closed the page instantly after opening it. Reader view isn't even available. Sigh.

empath75 2y ago

I don't mind the format, but the article itself was basically nothing you couldn't get from 5 minutes of looking at wikipedia.