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> Until they turn 16 I intend to vet most media myself on a self-hosted server. Are you going to use the same methods your parents used to do this for you/

arnaudsm 2y ago
Yes. Before the internet, my parents looked at the PG rating of every movie we rented at Blockbuster. Many parents did.
- mewpmewp2 2y ago
  Would you consider that good? I grew up with the Internet and people sharing shock horror sites with some very questionable content. It seems we all mostly still grew up fine.
  - arnaudsm 2y ago
    There's a difference between accidentally stumbling on shocking TikTok content and willingly browsing a gore site. If my kid really wants to check it, it might be acceptable, but I'm not ok with an algorithm showing it by surprise.
    - mewpmewp2 2y ago
      I wouldn't want my kid browsing TikTok or anything with addictive recommendation system either, but I was mainly talking about explicitly taking effort to keep teenagers away from questionable content. But actually I'm not sure exactly how much policing the OP intended. It seems to me like a way to get your kid to not tell you anything in fear of censorship.
    - kjkjadksj 2y ago
      Thats basically how it worked back then too. Instead of an algorithm showing you this stuff by surprise it was your buddy in the computer lab saying “hey check this out.”
  - j45 2y ago
    You won't know for another 10-20 years for what you are de-sensitized to. Also, your experience won't be anyone else's. Assuming so can create challenges.
    - mewpmewp2 2y ago
      How do you know it's 10 - 20 years? I'm not alone though, all the childhood people I grew up with that were exposed to this questionable content seem functioning fine now. Although I would agree that people and especially children shouldn't use TikTok or addictive things like that, but I'm mainly talking about the content specifically.
mynameisash 2y ago
When I was 16, nearly all the media I consumed was vetted/regulated by the FCC.
- ffsm8 2y ago
  Really? I'm a millennial and most of the content I consumed came from * Initially various Warez sources (KDX , eMule etc) (2000-2005 I think) * later on liveleak, 4chan, digger (2006-2007? Not sure anymore), * Then stumble upon, 9gag (08-10) * finally ending at reddit (2010-2014, that was the year spez edited user comments. Very rarely used it since) I vividly remember watching pretty fucked up shit back then, like racists executions of teenagers by police officers (South America) and a lot of sexual content, which is pretty disturbing from today's perspective if I don't completely misremember them.
  - arsenico 2y ago
    However, none of that was fed to you by algorithms, but rather your own curiosity for weird stuff and your ability to find it. I am not saying that it is good or bad, but in my book, it is different from infinite algorithmic feeds we currently have.
    - mewpmewp2 2y ago
      Yeah, but OP was talking about vetting and policing content. I fully agree that addictive algorithms are bad though.
    - Scrapemist 2y ago
      Good point
    - ffsm8 2y ago
      > your own curiosity for weird stuff and your ability to find it Ignoring the fact that my comment was about watching videos with age rating: Not really? The execution for example came under the name of some anime episode I wanted to watch back then. Lots of trolls liked to upload terrible stuff under innocuous names. But sure, once I was on liveleak things were moderately down to my own choices, whatever that means for a minor. It's also just as true today btw. The reason kids get these videos is because they're clicking on the thumbnails that interests them.

arnaudsm 2y ago

Yes. Before the internet, my parents looked at the PG rating of every movie we rented at Blockbuster. Many parents did.

mewpmewp2 2y ago
Would you consider that good? I grew up with the Internet and people sharing shock horror sites with some very questionable content. It seems we all mostly still grew up fine.
- arnaudsm 2y ago
  There's a difference between accidentally stumbling on shocking TikTok content and willingly browsing a gore site. If my kid really wants to check it, it might be acceptable, but I'm not ok with an algorithm showing it by surprise.
  - mewpmewp2 2y ago
    I wouldn't want my kid browsing TikTok or anything with addictive recommendation system either, but I was mainly talking about explicitly taking effort to keep teenagers away from questionable content. But actually I'm not sure exactly how much policing the OP intended. It seems to me like a way to get your kid to not tell you anything in fear of censorship.
  - kjkjadksj 2y ago
    Thats basically how it worked back then too. Instead of an algorithm showing you this stuff by surprise it was your buddy in the computer lab saying “hey check this out.”
- j45 2y ago
  You won't know for another 10-20 years for what you are de-sensitized to. Also, your experience won't be anyone else's. Assuming so can create challenges.
  - mewpmewp2 2y ago
    How do you know it's 10 - 20 years? I'm not alone though, all the childhood people I grew up with that were exposed to this questionable content seem functioning fine now. Although I would agree that people and especially children shouldn't use TikTok or addictive things like that, but I'm mainly talking about the content specifically.

mynameisash 2y ago

When I was 16, nearly all the media I consumed was vetted/regulated by the FCC.

ffsm8 2y ago
Really? I'm a millennial and most of the content I consumed came from * Initially various Warez sources (KDX , eMule etc) (2000-2005 I think) * later on liveleak, 4chan, digger (2006-2007? Not sure anymore), * Then stumble upon, 9gag (08-10) * finally ending at reddit (2010-2014, that was the year spez edited user comments. Very rarely used it since) I vividly remember watching pretty fucked up shit back then, like racists executions of teenagers by police officers (South America) and a lot of sexual content, which is pretty disturbing from today's perspective if I don't completely misremember them.
- arsenico 2y ago
  However, none of that was fed to you by algorithms, but rather your own curiosity for weird stuff and your ability to find it. I am not saying that it is good or bad, but in my book, it is different from infinite algorithmic feeds we currently have.
  - mewpmewp2 2y ago
    Yeah, but OP was talking about vetting and policing content. I fully agree that addictive algorithms are bad though.
  - Scrapemist 2y ago
    Good point
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    > your own curiosity for weird stuff and your ability to find it Ignoring the fact that my comment was about watching videos with age rating: Not really? The execution for example came under the name of some anime episode I wanted to watch back then. Lots of trolls liked to upload terrible stuff under innocuous names. But sure, once I was on liveleak things were moderately down to my own choices, whatever that means for a minor. It's also just as true today btw. The reason kids get these videos is because they're clicking on the thumbnails that interests them.