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It even came with handwriting built in as authentication mechanism! AI detectors hate this secret! On a more serious note - US removed cursive from their curri

• mikeocool 2y ago
  21 states still mandate cursive in their curriculum. There are lots of things I spent a lot of time learning school that I rarely use, but see the value in having learnt. Cursive, beyond a very basic level, is not one of those things. Though I’m no education expert, perhaps there is a subliminal value to spending all that time.
  • iteria 2y ago
    I learned cursive in school and never used it. I have written countless essays by hand in grade school and college and never felt the need to do it in cursive because to me my cursive was just way more unreadable than my printing and not particularly faster.
• kibwen 2y ago
  I don't know what the rest of the world calls "cursive", but here in the US the cursive we get taught is strictly inferior: slower to write, less compact on the page, and harder to read (while also being strictly uglier than true calligraphy). It's a script designed for allowing you to avoid lifting a quill from the page and thereby avoiding ink blots; it's entirely obsolete.
  • lolinder 2y ago
    This is a bit of an exaggeration. I learned cursive, then reverted to print, but when I entered a phase of my life where I needed to write several pages a day I quickly went back to (a custom variant of) cursive because it was faster to write in a legible way than print. When I rush print it quickly becomes illegible. When I rush my cursive it doesn't look quite as nice as it does when I'm writing steadily, but I can still read what I wrote ten years later. From what I can tell it works because cursive letters are defined in a shape that lends itself to a quick moving pen. Once you learn that shape (both to write and read), you can quickly get words down on a page and then understand them later. If you just try to slur your print in an unprincipled way your letters distort in ways that make them harder to tell apart. Now, I imagine someone could develop a slurred print that doesn't have connections between letters, but I'd probably call that a cursive anyway.
  • lm28469 2y ago
    Write in cursive or in print, or even cut letter from a newspaper if you want. If you do it in a classroom in front of a teacher cheating is dramatically reduced
  • vundercind 2y ago
    Yeah, the hand they taught us (in the early '90s) was some common one that I gather most places have taught in the US for decades. It never made any sense to me. Ugly, hard to read, and not even notably faster to write, even if you got good at it. Later I found out it was developed for use with a fountain pen, designed with the idea that a correctly-faced nib would make some strokes bolder and others very faint, and to keep the nib always moving in a kind of flow to avoid spots, and to make it natural to keep the nib faced the correct way(s), plus with even more attention to avoiding raising the pen than most cursives, for similar reasons of avoiding spotting. That made all the downsides make sense—it's far less ugly and easier to read when written with a fountain pen, and may well be faster than many other similarly-clean methods of writing with one. Why the hell we were still learning that hand decades into the dominance of the ballpoint, remains a question.
• tomjen3 2y ago
  Dane here. We don't write things in cursive. Sure we were thought cursive in school (my only remedial class! What a waste of time), but we write on computers. Very occasionally we might need to write up a sign or something. I did nearly all my exams on a computer. At one point the best writing tool was the fountain pen. It was a great invention and it had an appropriate script: cursive, which was the natural thing to do given how the ink flowed. However kids are messy and you really want them to use pencils because they don't have flowing ink. The reason for cursive in the first place was the flowing ink, so when we switched away from flowing ink, there was no reason to write in cursive. Except of course to waste the only resource everybody agrees is okay to waste: kids time.
  • ta1243 2y ago
    Lol, multiple people downvoted you for some reason. A lot of Americans have this weird love of joined up handwriting. I wonder if it's because so much of their cultural history is based around a handwritten document and the mythos of the "John Hancock" The time would be far better spent on say personal finance lessons, which people seem to really struggle with. What's a mortgage, what's a loan, what gets taxed, that sort of thing.
• ta1243 2y ago
  Sorry but nobody uses "cursive" writing. People barely write once they leave education - they type. When they do write it's legible separate characters or it's unreadable scrawl.
  • TeaBrain 2y ago
    My brother (mid-20s) still writes in cursive. He does so beautifully, completely legibly, and rapidly, at a faster rate than he, or the average person, can write non-cursive.
    • ta1243 2y ago
      What a useful skill for the 160 words a year the average person writes /s
      • TeaBrain 2y ago
        He's not the average person. His handwriting ability is both an impressive and useful skill, considering that he takes notes in a notebook, and can do so rapidly. Besides, your claim was that "no-one" uses cursive, which I simply was chiming in to point out isn't true.
  • selimthegrim 2y ago
    Aren’t you still required to write out a statement in cursive when you take the SAT?
    • ta1243 2y ago
      For what possible purpose?
      • selimthegrim 2y ago
        Basically promising you’re not cheating and your answers are your own.
• lotsoweiners 2y ago
  My kids still have cursive in the curriculum (charter school but I believe the public schools in my district teach it too). Once my oldest hit 4th grade, all assignments had to be completed in cursive.
• CamperBob2 2y ago
  Classroom time is limited, so if you include cursive writing in your curriculum you have to omit something else. Whatever you dropped to make room for handwriting is almost certainly going to be more useful to the students once they reach adulthood. At the end of the day cursive writing is a hobby, not a skill. We don't need it anymore. It wastes priceless learning time at a critical juncture in our intellectual development.
• joe_the_user 2y ago
  There's no particular reason people need to use cursive rather than printing. I personally always struggled with cursive due to eye-hand coordination issues and teachers' demand for it just seemed like hazing (and I'm a boomer). Good riddance to cursive.