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Naval Is Mistaken

28 points by arnejenssen 2y ago

belter 2y ago
Character matters: https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1g7fdsy/elon_musks_fake_sites_and_fake_texts/ https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1g7fdsy/elon_musk...
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  And people with a voice need to say so. pg did the right thing to say so.
  - belter 2y ago
    Specially when there was no clear positive upside for him. Reminds me of Vinod Khosla interview with CNBC: https://youtu.be/pidTqyg9Rms https://youtu.be/pidTqyg9Rms
notfried 2y ago
While it is true that most of the election-year policies are promises that end up not being fulfilled, the policies that are chosen by the candidate to push the most are also a reflection of their character and beliefs. And just like you've to distill the fake from real promises, you've to do the same for the character they project, because how they present themselves is not always any more real than the policies they promise.
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cheschire 2y ago
Policy is a stick. Useless without a person willing to swing it consistently and fairly.
eterm 2y ago
With such vague arguments, it's not even clear to an outsider what each of their preferences are.
- leonheld 2y ago
  This is how I feel reading almost all discussions in regards to US politics. It's so vague and handwavy sometimes I feel like even if I read the news I have no idea what one is talking about. Why do people feel the need to not be direct? I don't get and my gut feeling is that this is very US-centric.
- kichik 2y ago
  Keep reading down the thread. He's not trying to hide it that much. https://x.com/paulg/status/1847333998554447948 https://x.com/paulg/status/1847333998554447948
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  I mean, if angry antagonizing insurrectionist terrormongering is your character there's a candidate for you. I think it's clear to 99.9%+ of people.
kingkongjaffa 2y ago
As someone not from the US, Naval's tweet is pretty disgraceful. >Vote for freedom, entrepreneurship, meritocracy. >Vote against serfdom, censorship, bureaucracy. This is saying nothing, and depending on which side of the fence you sit on you are 1000% going to read that and think yeah that's my person in the "FOR" option and the "BAD" side is the other person in the "AGAINST" option.
- piva00 2y ago
  That's the whole shtick, plausible deniability by saying nothing of substance.
skilled 2y ago
https://nitter.poast.org/paulg/status/1847225545299251597 https://nitter.poast.org/paulg/status/1847225545299251597
satisfice 2y ago
Vote against obviously evil power mongers. Vote against people who thumb their nose at even the idea of civil society. Vote against people who think government is nothing but the criminal gang that fights for you against your perceived enemies.

28 points by arnejenssen 2y ago

Character matters: https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1g7fdsy/elon_musks_fake_sites_and_fake_texts/ https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1g7fdsy/elon_musk...

toomuchtodo 2y ago
And people with a voice need to say so. pg did the right thing to say so.
- belter 2y ago
  Specially when there was no clear positive upside for him. Reminds me of Vinod Khosla interview with CNBC: https://youtu.be/pidTqyg9Rms https://youtu.be/pidTqyg9Rms

notfried 2y ago

While it is true that most of the election-year policies are promises that end up not being fulfilled, the policies that are chosen by the candidate to push the most are also a reflection of their character and beliefs. And just like you've to distill the fake from real promises, you've to do the same for the character they project, because how they present themselves is not always any more real than the policies they promise.

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cheschire 2y ago

Policy is a stick. Useless without a person willing to swing it consistently and fairly.

eterm 2y ago

With such vague arguments, it's not even clear to an outsider what each of their preferences are.

leonheld 2y ago
This is how I feel reading almost all discussions in regards to US politics. It's so vague and handwavy sometimes I feel like even if I read the news I have no idea what one is talking about. Why do people feel the need to not be direct? I don't get and my gut feeling is that this is very US-centric.
kichik 2y ago
Keep reading down the thread. He's not trying to hide it that much. https://x.com/paulg/status/1847333998554447948 https://x.com/paulg/status/1847333998554447948
jauntywundrkind 2y ago
I mean, if angry antagonizing insurrectionist terrormongering is your character there's a candidate for you. I think it's clear to 99.9%+ of people.

kingkongjaffa 2y ago

As someone not from the US, Naval's tweet is pretty disgraceful. >Vote for freedom, entrepreneurship, meritocracy. >Vote against serfdom, censorship, bureaucracy. This is saying nothing, and depending on which side of the fence you sit on you are 1000% going to read that and think yeah that's my person in the "FOR" option and the "BAD" side is the other person in the "AGAINST" option.

piva00 2y ago
That's the whole shtick, plausible deniability by saying nothing of substance.

skilled 2y ago

https://nitter.poast.org/paulg/status/1847225545299251597 https://nitter.poast.org/paulg/status/1847225545299251597

satisfice 2y ago

Vote against obviously evil power mongers. Vote against people who thumb their nose at even the idea of civil society. Vote against people who think government is nothing but the criminal gang that fights for you against your perceived enemies.