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How come I rarely see news about Anthropic? Aren’t they the closest competitor to ChatGPT with Claude? Or is LLama just so good that all the other inference pro

How come I rarely see news about Anthropic? Aren’t they the closest competitor to ChatGPT with Claude? Or is LLama just so good that all the other inference providers without own products (Groq, Cerebras) are equally interesting right now?

jowday 2y ago
Usually the people that give information to outlets in cases like this are directly involved in the stories in question and are hoping to gain some advantage by releasing the information. So maybe this is just a tactic that’s not as favored by Anthropic leaderships/their counterparties when negotiating.
dangsux 2y ago
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rblatz 2y ago
I think they’re just focused on the work. Amazon is set to release a version of Alexa powered by Claude soon, when that is released I expect to hear a lot more about them.
gman83 2y ago
Because there's less drama? I use Claude 3.5 Sonnet every day for helping me with coding. It seems to just work. It's been much better than GPT-4 for me, haven't tried o1, but don't really feel the need, very happy with Claude.
- ponty_rick 2y ago
  Sonnet 3.5 is phenomenal for coding, so much better than GPT or Llama 405 or anything else out there.
  - douglasisshiny 2y ago
    I've heard this and haven't really experienced it with Go, typescript, elixir yet. I don't doubt the claim, but I wonder if I'm not prompting it correctly or something.
    - ffsm8 2y ago
      I've recently subscribed to sonnet after creating a new toy svelte project as I got slightly annoyed searching in the docs with how they're structured It made the onboarding moderately easier for me. Haven't successfully used any LLM at my day job though. Getting it to output the solution I already know I'll need is much slower then just doing it myself via auto complete
    - sbuttgereit 2y ago
      I'm using Claude 3.5 Sonnet with Elixir and finding it really quite good. But depending on how you're using it, the results could vary greatly. When I started using the LLM while coding, I was using Claude 3.5 Sonnet, but I was doing so with an IDE integration: Sourcegraph Cody. It was good, but had a large number of "meh" responses, especially in terms of autocomplete responses (they were typically useless outside of the very first parts of the suggestion). I tried out Cursor, still with Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and the difference is night and day. The autocomplete responses with Cursor have been dramatically superior to what I was getting before... enough so that I switched despite the fact that Cursor is a VS Code fork and that there's no support outside of their VS Code fork (with Cody, I was using it in VS Code and Intellij products). Also Cursor is around twice the cost of Cody. I'm not sure what the difference is... all of this is very much black box magic to me outside of the hand-waviest of explanations... but I have to expect that Cursor is providing more context to the autocomplete integration. I have to imagine that this contributes to the much higher (proportionately speaking) price point.
    - nineteen999 2y ago
      Wait until you try them with assembly languages, the resulting code is even funnier.
castoff991 2y ago
OAI has many leakers and generally a younger/less mature employee base.
- esafak 2y ago
  And a leader who lives for drama.
hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
> How come I rarely see news about Anthropic? Because you're not looking? Seriously, don't mean to be snarky, but I'd take issue is the underlying premise is that Anthropic doesn't get a lot of press, at least within the tech ecosystem. Sure, OpenAI has larger "mindshare" with the general public due to ChatGPT, but Anthropic gets plenty of coverage, e.g. Claude 3.5 Sonnet is just fantastic when it comes to coding and I learned about that on HN first.
- solarkraft 2y ago
  Claude 3.5 Sonnet is fantastic and that’s why I’m wondering why all the business news I see on HN ([company] makes deal with [other company]) almost always seems to involve OpenAI, not Anthropic. Branding-wise and strategically (with the focus on alignment) it seems like they‘d be a perfect fit for Apple, yet they seem to instead focus on OpenAI. That surprises me and makes me curious about the reason
drilbo 2y ago
I think the fact they aren't publicly traded is not an insignificant fact in this context

jowday 2y ago

Usually the people that give information to outlets in cases like this are directly involved in the stories in question and are hoping to gain some advantage by releasing the information. So maybe this is just a tactic that’s not as favored by Anthropic leaderships/their counterparties when negotiating.

dangsux 2y ago

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rblatz 2y ago

I think they’re just focused on the work. Amazon is set to release a version of Alexa powered by Claude soon, when that is released I expect to hear a lot more about them.

gman83 2y ago

Because there's less drama? I use Claude 3.5 Sonnet every day for helping me with coding. It seems to just work. It's been much better than GPT-4 for me, haven't tried o1, but don't really feel the need, very happy with Claude.

ponty_rick 2y ago
Sonnet 3.5 is phenomenal for coding, so much better than GPT or Llama 405 or anything else out there.
- douglasisshiny 2y ago
  I've heard this and haven't really experienced it with Go, typescript, elixir yet. I don't doubt the claim, but I wonder if I'm not prompting it correctly or something.
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    I've recently subscribed to sonnet after creating a new toy svelte project as I got slightly annoyed searching in the docs with how they're structured It made the onboarding moderately easier for me. Haven't successfully used any LLM at my day job though. Getting it to output the solution I already know I'll need is much slower then just doing it myself via auto complete
  - sbuttgereit 2y ago
    I'm using Claude 3.5 Sonnet with Elixir and finding it really quite good. But depending on how you're using it, the results could vary greatly. When I started using the LLM while coding, I was using Claude 3.5 Sonnet, but I was doing so with an IDE integration: Sourcegraph Cody. It was good, but had a large number of "meh" responses, especially in terms of autocomplete responses (they were typically useless outside of the very first parts of the suggestion). I tried out Cursor, still with Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and the difference is night and day. The autocomplete responses with Cursor have been dramatically superior to what I was getting before... enough so that I switched despite the fact that Cursor is a VS Code fork and that there's no support outside of their VS Code fork (with Cody, I was using it in VS Code and Intellij products). Also Cursor is around twice the cost of Cody. I'm not sure what the difference is... all of this is very much black box magic to me outside of the hand-waviest of explanations... but I have to expect that Cursor is providing more context to the autocomplete integration. I have to imagine that this contributes to the much higher (proportionately speaking) price point.
  - nineteen999 2y ago
    Wait until you try them with assembly languages, the resulting code is even funnier.

castoff991 2y ago

OAI has many leakers and generally a younger/less mature employee base.

esafak 2y ago
And a leader who lives for drama.

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

> How come I rarely see news about Anthropic? Because you're not looking? Seriously, don't mean to be snarky, but I'd take issue is the underlying premise is that Anthropic doesn't get a lot of press, at least within the tech ecosystem. Sure, OpenAI has larger "mindshare" with the general public due to ChatGPT, but Anthropic gets plenty of coverage, e.g. Claude 3.5 Sonnet is just fantastic when it comes to coding and I learned about that on HN first.

solarkraft 2y ago
Claude 3.5 Sonnet is fantastic and that’s why I’m wondering why all the business news I see on HN ([company] makes deal with [other company]) almost always seems to involve OpenAI, not Anthropic. Branding-wise and strategically (with the focus on alignment) it seems like they‘d be a perfect fit for Apple, yet they seem to instead focus on OpenAI. That surprises me and makes me curious about the reason

drilbo 2y ago

I think the fact they aren't publicly traded is not an insignificant fact in this context