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It's not 99% of the same things, you have cherry picked. There's many studies comparing the cost, I've never see any that put the saving as low as 10 to 15%, 5

It's not 99% of the same things, you have cherry picked. There's many studies comparing the cost, I've never see any that put the saving as low as 10 to 15%, 50% is a more common figure. Most manufacturers grantee their batteries , mine has a 10 year warranty.Batteries developing problems and needing to be replaces is not really a thing.

traceroute66 2y ago
> It's not 99% of the same things, you have cherry picked. No, I have not cherry picked. Because the remaining 1%, topping-up oil, replacing gaskets, belts etc. is simply not where the bulk of ICE maintenance costs come from. This sort of stuff can be done cheaply and easily by your local garage. The bulk of the ICE and EV maintenance costs is the same, the stuff that gets exposed to the wear-and-tear of the elements, i.e. your tyres, your windscreen, your shock-absorbers etc. etc. An EV does not make you immune to getting nails in your tyres, chips in your windscreen, cracks in your shock-absorbers etc. .... > Most manufacturers grantee their batteries , mine has a 10 year warranty As with most things of this nature, I would be interested to see the wordings of such warranties, particularly the exclusion clauses. :) > There's many studies comparing the cost... And if we exclude studies funded/conducted by the EV companies or others with vested interests ? :)
- chii 2y ago
  > your tyres i've heard, not 100% sure if true, that EV tends to push the tyres harder, as they accelerate harder. This means tyres lasts for less for an EV.
  - traceroute66 2y ago
    > that EV tends to push the tyres harder, as they accelerate harder. I would think the regen breaking might also put wear on the tyres, especially for those people who like it set in the more aggressive modes.
  - lnsru 2y ago
    It’s the driver. BMW tires and brakes do not last long too.
lupusreal 2y ago
> Most manufacturers grantee their batteries , mine has a 10 year warranty A ten year battery warranty means most used car buyers would be without a battery warranty. My current car was 12 years old when I got it, and in basically pristine condition. Good ICE cars are very durable in a way that the batteries in EVs simply aren't.

traceroute66 2y ago

> It's not 99% of the same things, you have cherry picked. No, I have not cherry picked. Because the remaining 1%, topping-up oil, replacing gaskets, belts etc. is simply not where the bulk of ICE maintenance costs come from. This sort of stuff can be done cheaply and easily by your local garage. The bulk of the ICE and EV maintenance costs is the same, the stuff that gets exposed to the wear-and-tear of the elements, i.e. your tyres, your windscreen, your shock-absorbers etc. etc. An EV does not make you immune to getting nails in your tyres, chips in your windscreen, cracks in your shock-absorbers etc. .... > Most manufacturers grantee their batteries , mine has a 10 year warranty As with most things of this nature, I would be interested to see the wordings of such warranties, particularly the exclusion clauses. :) > There's many studies comparing the cost... And if we exclude studies funded/conducted by the EV companies or others with vested interests ? :)

chii 2y ago
> your tyres i've heard, not 100% sure if true, that EV tends to push the tyres harder, as they accelerate harder. This means tyres lasts for less for an EV.
- traceroute66 2y ago
  > that EV tends to push the tyres harder, as they accelerate harder. I would think the regen breaking might also put wear on the tyres, especially for those people who like it set in the more aggressive modes.
- lnsru 2y ago
  It’s the driver. BMW tires and brakes do not last long too.

lupusreal 2y ago

> Most manufacturers grantee their batteries , mine has a 10 year warranty A ten year battery warranty means most used car buyers would be without a battery warranty. My current car was 12 years old when I got it, and in basically pristine condition. Good ICE cars are very durable in a way that the batteries in EVs simply aren't.