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12 months left to keep Copilot off your desktop or learn Linux
- abirch 2y agoWhat about the Apple?
- politelemon 2y agoRunning from the arms of one untrustworthy corporation into another untrustworthy one isn't addressing the issue, that's just pigs, lipsticks, brand, and marketing.
- deafpolygon 2y agoIn the grand scheme of things, sometimes one option just doesn't stack up to the other. If that's the case, which one seems to be the underdog?
- schlipity 2y agoFor gamers, Apple isn't an option.
- BlindEyeHalo 2y agobut linux is?
- deafpolygon 2y agoMost games work, if it isn’t bundled with anti-cheat.
- Hamuko 2y agoYes, actually. The (Arch) Linux-based Steam Deck is brilliant for gaming. Much better than any Mac in my household.
- getwiththeprog 2y agoGames on linux now regularly get better frame rates than the same games under windoze. https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/three-gaming-focused-linux-operating-systems-beat-windows-11-in-gaming-benchmarks https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/three-gaming-foc... If you want to try out games on linux and make it easy, try out Lutris.
- izacus 2y agoSince Valve's Proton and Steam Deck (with companies targeting Steam Deck compatibility) Linux has become a very viable alternative. Apple with its ARM CPUs and requirement for Metal isn't there really.
- dpbriggs 2y agoThe only games I can't play on Linux are mega-modded Skyrim and League of Legends.
- nickserv 2y agoNot sure if 500 mods is "mega", but Skyrim runs fine using wine-staging. Indeed no issues with dx9 for a long time now. Never tried LoL, but dx12 games like Horizon ZD/FW run well enough with ultra settings for the former, high for the latter.
- fwsgonzo 2y agoI can at least confirm playing mega-modded Oblivion on Linux.
- nickserv 2y agoGamers typically want to be able to customize their hardware.
- surgical_fire 2y agoAbsolutely. Unless you play some crap that relies on anti-cheat malware (and in that case, you might want to re-evaluate your gaming tastes), I have been gaming on Linux without any issues.
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoBrother some of us have friends who want to play “crap” games with us.
- hggigg 2y agoIndeed. I decided after getting fucked by Epic that I wasn't going to invest in any games any more. The whole market leaves a bad taste in my mouth now. Apple was an easy move. Hat tip to any Linux switchers. I hope you get what you need out of it.
- ThatPlayer 2y agoThey don't support my hardware.
- surgical_fire 2y agoLinux user here. If my options were Windows or OSX, I would be swallowing copilot. I'm so damn thankful Linux became a viable option. Switched to Linux fully a couple of years ago, and have been very happy since.
- deafpolygon 2y agoWhat makes OSX (macOS) such an unviable option?
- surgical_fire 2y agoIt is as unfriendly and annoying as Windows, but unlike Windows it also sucks for gaming.
- reginald78 2y agoIt is a fine alternative for many people, but if hardware tinkering or gaming are concerns it is right out.
- TiredOfLife 2y agoApple users have at best 3 months left.
- zelphirkalt 2y agoEvery version gets a little shinier. That's part of the problem of course. MS should take responsibility for all the trashed hardware that they cause with their idiotic upgrade policies and ever increasing system requirements. The article is calling windows 10 a "winning formula" - while it is already a dumpster fire.
- jmclnx 2y agoI am looking forward to all this good hardware flooding the used market. May be very easy to find a great system on the cheap.
- CalRobert 2y agoThere's not a lot to learn, desktop Linux is pretty much the same as windows was when it was still good.
- tobyhinloopen 2y agoIt is not
- nickserv 2y ago... until you need dx12 support.
- gpderetta 2y agoisn't VKD3D good enough?
- titaniumtown 2y agoThere are directX to vulkan translation layers such as https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk for up to dx11. For dx12 specifically, you have vkd3d: https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home
- a_humean 2y agoValve's proton and VKD3D basically covers all of that. The only games that I have any trouble running on my fedora/amd system are those that use invasive anti-cheat.
- nickserv 2y agoTo the downvoters: I am well aware that Linux can run modern games. In fact my gaming rig is a KDE Neon 6.2 install with all latest mesa, amdgpu, etc. I play the latest dx12 games just fine on it. But the original point wasn't whether Linux could, but whether it's different from Windows. And as someone who compiles DXVK from git: dx12 won't work out of the box; it is different from Windows. Not particularly difficult, but different...
- soco 2y ago
- captainmuon 2y agoIt's crazy, people used to be excited when a new version of Windows came out. New features, prettier UI. People used to pay a lot of money for a new mayor OS version. I probably haven't payed more than 5 € for Windows in the last decade. I think if Microsoft would focus on quality of life improvements and fix the mess that Windows UX often is, maybe implement a fancy new theme every once in a while, then they could get people excited about updates again.
- nickserv 2y agoWhy bother when most people just use whatever the hardware comes with?
- llm_trw 2y ago> It's crazy, people used to be excited when a new version of Windows came out. I remember in 1995 a few of my fathers coworkers lining up for a midnight launch of Windows 95. By 2007 and Vista the same people were saying that you'd take XP from their cold dead hands.
- reacharavindh 2y agoFor those who keep Windows for the games.. there is this -> https://bazzite.gg/ https://bazzite.gg/
- DrBazza 2y agoMoved to Fedora many years ago, and also AMD based kit for the usual reasons. Had zero problems, uptime of months, if not longer, and still gaming and developing. No random pauses, and everything, including search, just work. Windows 11 - used it $day job$ and it's ok. That's as charitable as I can be. They're looking to move staff to Macs and Linux, and retire W11. It's only in use because of things like Office, Outlook, and the odd bit of software that's Windows only. Which is kind of ironic, because there are quite a few programs I've come across that download only for Mac or Linux which is the opposite to 20 years ago. It's funny and a bit sad that Windows 11 is the kind of version of Windows I would have associated with Ballmer. A sort of in-your-face money making machine with all its ads and cruft. Yet, it's Nadella. Does Microsoft, at some level, have a 'we know Windows is dying' attitude? They have their other billion dollar 'pillars' of Azure, Office, XBox, and so on.
- hypeatei 2y ago> Office, Outlook, and the odd bit of software that's Windows only You can use Office apps in the browser now. I've only really used Outlook and Teams there, so YMMV.
- DrBazza 2y agoThere's still a lot of Office functionality in the desktop versions, such as automation of other desktop apps, and also Excel plugins (so many finance companies use that), so there's still "lock in".
- thyristan 2y agoBrowser based MS Office is crap. Half the documents produced in desktop MS Office are broken there, worse than simply using LibreOffice to open them.
- throwup238 2y agoLast I checked you couldn’t even use absolute positioning to place elements in Word docs. I was trying to make a lost pet poster, and that was the first and last time I tried Office365.
- weystrom 2y agoYeah, but no. Proton is the best thing that happened to Linux gaming, but sometimes it's still not good enough to get full Windows-like experience. HDR still doesn't work properly, there are no codecs (Atmos, DTS:X) for my surround system, latest nvidia driver broke Microsoft Flight Sim and other games on wayland. The list goes on. And as for Copilot - I'm sure I'll be able to rip it out, just like the other crap MS forcefully pushes on people.
- nicolaslem 2y ago> HDR still doesn't work properly The Steam Deck OLED has an HDR screen and as far as I can tell it just works.
- weystrom 2y agoThey use a gamescope[1] session to achieve this. You could potentially do the same on dekstop, but it's painful. [1] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
- jlpcsl 2y agoHDR works fine for me on KDE Plasma 6
- unreal37 2y agoDo nothing remains an option. It's what 95% of Windows 10 users will do.
- soco 2y agoWindows 11 has over 30% of the Windows share by the more pessimistic estimations. Not sure what you mean with the 95.
- gpderetta 2y ago95% of Windows 10 users, not of all Windows users.
- rob74 2y agoHow many of those 30% are people who bought a new laptop/PC with Windows 11 preinstalled, and how many actually upgraded from Windows 10?
- soco 2y agoSo what happened to the missing 25%, died before upgrading?
- CyberDildonics 2y agoWhat does 'missing 25%' mean? Where does that number come from?
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- Havoc 2y agoFor a site called pcgamer i wish they’d address the elephant in the room. Much of the anticheat tech is still windows only. Same with video streaming DRM.
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- bossyTeacher 2y agowindows 12 will be out before then. As per the tradition, w12 will be what w11 tried to be. That being said, I really need to consider using linux for gaming. I only use windows for gaming so and most of my games are small indie ones.
- nelup20 2y agoMade the move myself at the start of this year and I love it. For those considering it, I wrote this blog post which might be helpful: https://neluplatonov.com/posts/2024/the-mere-mortals-guide-to-desktop-linux/ https://neluplatonov.com/posts/2024/the-mere-mortals-guide-t... Caveat: I don't use any special hardware like audio interfaces or racing wheels, so no idea about the experience with those (I'd assume getting drivers to work might be a PITA/impossible?).
- aagha 2y agoFFS just pay for Windows Pro. All the complaints are about bloat-ware and ads. During the Pro install, Choose International vs US and you don't get any bloat. With Pro ($90?) nothing is pushed on you. The small things that are, can easily be removed with Powershell.
- cryptos 2y agoMoving to Linux is not an option for everyone. I like Linux for development, but from time to time I use other software (e.g. graphics software) that is only available for Windows and macOS. Hopefully more commercial software will be available for Linux in the future.
- haunter 2y agoOr install LTSC