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Taxes should also be included in the advertised price, then. Just imagine!

Kon-Peki 2y ago
That would be nice, but there is a LOT of background work before that is feasible (in the US). As it currently stands, for many products a vendor would need to know who you are and where you live before they could quote you a total price. That's unacceptable.
- perfectstorm 2y ago
  other countries have figured that out even countries with multiple levels of taxation like in the U.S. it's not an unsolvable problem.
  - Kon-Peki 2y ago
    > not an unsolvable problem I never said it was. In fact, I specifically said that there is work to do before making the rule about listing all prices inclusive of taxes.
    - perfectstorm 2y ago
      but you did say that figuring out the final price is "unacceptable"? why is it unacceptable? my point is that other countries have figured out a way to display the final prices, but USA still hasn't figured out how to do it or they don't have any plans to do it.
      - Kon-Peki 2y ago
        As things stand currently, it would be unacceptably intrusive as you have to collect information on all shoppers whether they purchase or not. Do the pre-work first, and then make a rule about displaying the final price.
- Symbiote 2y ago
  In Europe they make a best guess based on IP location, and if logged in using the account address or previous delivery address. Then the price may change at the checkout if you put in a different/unexpected delivery address.
pirate787 2y ago
Actually there's a purpose to keeping taxes separate. Policymakers want the tax burden to be visible, it is not part of price transparency because the vendor has nothing to do with the tax rate.
- matwood 2y ago
  Taxes are also hyper local and can differ between dine in/out making it hard to show the final price up front.
- r00fus 2y ago
  US policymakers want this. Euro/Asian policymakers have moved beyond this - whenever you travel you pay the sticker on the tin. It's a solved problem but we can't make it happen here. Why?

That would be nice, but there is a LOT of background work before that is feasible (in the US). As it currently stands, for many products a vendor would need to know who you are and where you live before they could quote you a total price. That's unacceptable.

perfectstorm 2y ago
other countries have figured that out even countries with multiple levels of taxation like in the U.S. it's not an unsolvable problem.
- Kon-Peki 2y ago
  > not an unsolvable problem I never said it was. In fact, I specifically said that there is work to do before making the rule about listing all prices inclusive of taxes.
  - perfectstorm 2y ago
    but you did say that figuring out the final price is "unacceptable"? why is it unacceptable? my point is that other countries have figured out a way to display the final prices, but USA still hasn't figured out how to do it or they don't have any plans to do it.
    - Kon-Peki 2y ago
      As things stand currently, it would be unacceptably intrusive as you have to collect information on all shoppers whether they purchase or not. Do the pre-work first, and then make a rule about displaying the final price.
Symbiote 2y ago
In Europe they make a best guess based on IP location, and if logged in using the account address or previous delivery address. Then the price may change at the checkout if you put in a different/unexpected delivery address.

pirate787 2y ago

Actually there's a purpose to keeping taxes separate. Policymakers want the tax burden to be visible, it is not part of price transparency because the vendor has nothing to do with the tax rate.

matwood 2y ago
Taxes are also hyper local and can differ between dine in/out making it hard to show the final price up front.
r00fus 2y ago
US policymakers want this. Euro/Asian policymakers have moved beyond this - whenever you travel you pay the sticker on the tin. It's a solved problem but we can't make it happen here. Why?