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I literally said Holy Shit out loud. This is an incredible improvement, and I'll refer to this in the future when I'm asked if we should make something new in J

I literally said Holy Shit out loud. This is an incredible improvement, and I'll refer to this in the future when I'm asked if we should make something new in Java.

mouse_ 2y ago
Yes but also consider the extensibility accessibility Java gave us. EVERYONE was building Minecraft mods back in the beta days. I might go as far as to say that extensibility is what made Minecraft so great.
- pphysch 2y ago
  No doubt about it. I don't think Minecraft would have gotten as far as fast in the public consciousness without content creators like Yogscast being able to produce so much novel content from modded Minecraft.
- somat 2y ago
  What I always found surprising was how many minecraft mods there were despite mojang having absolutely no mod support for the game. After learning that to make a minecraft mod the process was basically decompile minecraft fight the terrible names provided by the decompiler to make your changes then recompile it, I lost all interest.
  - nulltxt 2y ago
    Yarn[1] has pretty much fixed this along with fabric. [1] https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn
alex_medvedev 2y ago
I was suprised myself thats its that bad. Well optimized binary is that what your CPU loves not a big JVM runtime
dpedu 2y ago
Keeping in mind that this server appears to implement only a tiny subset of the features the ones it is benchmarked against do... No lighting, mob spawning, mob ai, redstone functionality, tree or plant growth, water/lava flow, etc.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  These wouldn’t significantly affect the first 10 chunks loaded?
  - misiek08 2y ago
    More than a "yes, it should". While loading chunks you need to take redstone, nature and mobs into account. If you don’t - you need to find them and resolve at runtime with even bigger costs, relying solely on difference between programming languages in performance.

I literally said Holy Shit out loud. This is an incredible improvement, and I'll refer to this in the future when I'm asked if we should make something new in Java.

mouse_ 2y ago

Yes but also consider the extensibility accessibility Java gave us. EVERYONE was building Minecraft mods back in the beta days. I might go as far as to say that extensibility is what made Minecraft so great.

pphysch 2y ago
No doubt about it. I don't think Minecraft would have gotten as far as fast in the public consciousness without content creators like Yogscast being able to produce so much novel content from modded Minecraft.
somat 2y ago
What I always found surprising was how many minecraft mods there were despite mojang having absolutely no mod support for the game. After learning that to make a minecraft mod the process was basically decompile minecraft fight the terrible names provided by the decompiler to make your changes then recompile it, I lost all interest.
- nulltxt 2y ago
  Yarn[1] has pretty much fixed this along with fabric. [1] https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn

alex_medvedev 2y ago

I was suprised myself thats its that bad. Well optimized binary is that what your CPU loves not a big JVM runtime

dpedu 2y ago

Keeping in mind that this server appears to implement only a tiny subset of the features the ones it is benchmarked against do... No lighting, mob spawning, mob ai, redstone functionality, tree or plant growth, water/lava flow, etc.

Aeolun 2y ago
These wouldn’t significantly affect the first 10 chunks loaded?
- misiek08 2y ago
  More than a "yes, it should". While loading chunks you need to take redstone, nature and mobs into account. If you don’t - you need to find them and resolve at runtime with even bigger costs, relying solely on difference between programming languages in performance.