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Hi, Pavel Zhovner here, Flipper Devices CEO. Yes it's our product, but it's not ready for announcement yet, so we keep it secret. Right now, we are working on

Hi, Pavel Zhovner here, Flipper Devices CEO. Yes it's our product, but it's not ready for announcement yet, so we keep it secret. Right now, we are working on implementing Matter smart home protocol and will slightly change the product concept.

Y_Y 2y ago
Hi Pavel Zhovner. I'm afraid you're not doing a very good job of keeping it secret. What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required?
- diggan 2y ago
  > What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required? Or even better, a version that ships with everything besides "the brain" and allows us to use our Flipper Zero as the brain :) Looking at the old blog articles about the project, it seems it got started with using Flipper Zero as the brain, so maybe it's not that far-fetched.
- adamyormark 2y ago
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dr_kiszonka 2y ago
It looks gorgeous, especially the hardware. I think the typeface on the hardware and the retro busy text could be further refined, but it is very very cool overall.
- dr_kiszonka 2y ago
  (Looking at the renders, there are at least four different fonts on the device. It would probably look better if you used fewer.)
poincaredisk 2y ago
Side note to people reading this: in general, when suspecting a scam, don't blindly trust anyone who says "I'm ... and I confirm this is OK". This may be the same very person who you're suspecting of original scam ;). Not a theory, I have cases looks this every other week in my dayjob. In this case I believe the post is legit.
- dgacmu 2y ago
  Or he's been playing the long game and fake-submitted the Show HN post for flipper zero four years ago just to be ready for this day. ;-) (or the account was compromised, of course)
  - bombcar 2y ago
    Even sneakier - he designed and built an entire company around the Flipper Zero just to be able to fake this. For real.
    - winwang 2y ago
      Idea of Flipper Zero was to lower our guard and trust their company with security, while actually shipping hardware with backdoors -- which the Flipper Zero will, for some reason, not be able to detect.
      - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
        The Flipper Zero is the backdoor, on the Day of Reckoning everyone's Flipper will emit a signal that will drive people into a murderous rage and detonate all nukes while "zhovner", if that is his real name, hides in a mountain lair with a selection of hand-picked people that he has Chosen to repopulate the earth with. Once the billions have perished, his buddy Musk will launch his fleet of Starships full of handpicked seed ships to spread throughout the solar system and galaxy to spread humanity across the universe like a disease. or something.
- creatonez 2y ago
parhamn 2y ago
Put a CO2 + temp/humidity sensor in there and it's a no-brainer. The sensors could be nice to hack on too.
- mxfh 2y ago
  with matter support that could just well integrate with the rest of home automation. There is a lack of devices with big nice dials for that. +1 CO2/PM2.5
  - djbusby 2y ago
    Maybe aranet4 device as add-on? It does BTLE.
- wingworks 2y ago
  Also add PM (Particulate Matter) and VOC.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- mightysashiman 2y ago
  hell yes!
- dylan604 2y ago
  so now we're talking a $500 device? they're already asking ~$200 for a feature stop watch
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    Why stop at a $500 device? I think it should also have NVMe and SFF-8644 for external disk shelves. At least 6x 10GbE, with 4 on SFPs and 2 on copper. A GPU with excellent hardware transcoding, and slotted VRAM for that local LLM fun. Plus an 8k projector for movie nights at the office. And a pony; every single one of these fucking kitchen timers must also come with a pony.
adtac 2y ago
Is there any message from the Flipper Zero people that this is actually their CEO? :)
- diggan 2y ago
  No need, the user profile (cryptographically) links to their keybase profiles which corroborates the identity. The future is here! :)
  - roland35 2y ago
    And... How do we know the key base profile is correct?
    - diggan 2y ago
      Here is how Keybase works: https://book.keybase.io/docs/server https://book.keybase.io/docs/server Then take a look at the HN profile, which leads you to the Keybase profile.
      - bloopernova 2y ago
        I really wish keybase had taken off. I should have realized it was going to fail once they started adding the cryptocurrency wallet.
        diggan 2y ago
        Keyoxide seems OK as an alternative: https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVKWT4VI https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVK... Doesn't have any of the social "features".
  - rtpg 2y ago
    Funnily, the way I used to check Keybase profiles is to check Twitter because a blue checkmark there was usually a good indication of them being "the famous person" but thanks to Twitter Blue that feature is no longer usable. I understand Keybase allows you to link up a bunch of accounts, but it doesn't prevent you from making all of those accounts say you are the CEO/CTO of some company unfortunately.
m463 2y ago
unrelated: how come you can't buy your device on amazon?
therein 2y ago
Looks nice. We should have known from the way it looks that it is either you guys or Teenage Engineering.
hiisukun 2y ago
I'd love for this thing to be feature-flexible enough to use it for the exact opposite: running TV/screen/videogame timer for the kids! Looks great, love the dial/switch big button combo, and the opportunity to buy something attractive that's a "hackable screen with buttons" is very high for me. Another likely use is to be a controller for audiobooks or music in our rumpus if I ever get a hold of one. Again, drivable by kids and oldies who visit is a huge plus.
novok 2y ago
A version of this that would be useful for WFH or private offices is an 'on air' device that you could mount outside your office door, which means it's not connected to your computer and could potentially run on a battery for a week+ or run on usb power directly. People want to come in sometimes to access a closet, but they don't know if your in a meeting, so it would also need to detect if your in a meeting, and the microphone being on or off is not enough because people often mute themselves. Calendar access is also not enough because sometimes you start a meeting without a calendar thingy, and also knowing if your 'on air' with an open door can tell them if they have to be worried if they could be on camera if they walk by the door. It could be a very simple LED, it just needs a good agent on your desktop. Also a 'yellow light' for an upcoming meeting in a couple minutes (so this is where calendar access is useful) or an orange light for camera & microphone off.
- mynameisvlad 2y ago
  It seems like that's already supported considering there's mobile apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdevices.busybar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdev... They're referenced on the second picture on the site, with the backside of the device that shows you how to control it.
itomato 2y ago
This is better and more useful than the FlipperOne, I think.

Y_Y 2y ago

Hi Pavel Zhovner. I'm afraid you're not doing a very good job of keeping it secret. What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required?

diggan 2y ago
> What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required? Or even better, a version that ships with everything besides "the brain" and allows us to use our Flipper Zero as the brain :) Looking at the old blog articles about the project, it seems it got started with using Flipper Zero as the brain, so maybe it's not that far-fetched.
adamyormark 2y ago
[flagged]

dr_kiszonka 2y ago

It looks gorgeous, especially the hardware. I think the typeface on the hardware and the retro busy text could be further refined, but it is very very cool overall.

dr_kiszonka 2y ago
(Looking at the renders, there are at least four different fonts on the device. It would probably look better if you used fewer.)

poincaredisk 2y ago

Side note to people reading this: in general, when suspecting a scam, don't blindly trust anyone who says "I'm ... and I confirm this is OK". This may be the same very person who you're suspecting of original scam ;). Not a theory, I have cases looks this every other week in my dayjob. In this case I believe the post is legit.

dgacmu 2y ago
Or he's been playing the long game and fake-submitted the Show HN post for flipper zero four years ago just to be ready for this day. ;-) (or the account was compromised, of course)
- bombcar 2y ago
  Even sneakier - he designed and built an entire company around the Flipper Zero just to be able to fake this. For real.
  - winwang 2y ago
    Idea of Flipper Zero was to lower our guard and trust their company with security, while actually shipping hardware with backdoors -- which the Flipper Zero will, for some reason, not be able to detect.
    - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
      The Flipper Zero is the backdoor, on the Day of Reckoning everyone's Flipper will emit a signal that will drive people into a murderous rage and detonate all nukes while "zhovner", if that is his real name, hides in a mountain lair with a selection of hand-picked people that he has Chosen to repopulate the earth with. Once the billions have perished, his buddy Musk will launch his fleet of Starships full of handpicked seed ships to spread throughout the solar system and galaxy to spread humanity across the universe like a disease. or something.
creatonez 2y ago

parhamn 2y ago

Put a CO2 + temp/humidity sensor in there and it's a no-brainer. The sensors could be nice to hack on too.

mxfh 2y ago
with matter support that could just well integrate with the rest of home automation. There is a lack of devices with big nice dials for that. +1 CO2/PM2.5
- djbusby 2y ago
  Maybe aranet4 device as add-on? It does BTLE.
wingworks 2y ago
Also add PM (Particulate Matter) and VOC.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
mightysashiman 2y ago
hell yes!
dylan604 2y ago
so now we're talking a $500 device? they're already asking ~$200 for a feature stop watch
- ssl-3 2y ago
  Why stop at a $500 device? I think it should also have NVMe and SFF-8644 for external disk shelves. At least 6x 10GbE, with 4 on SFPs and 2 on copper. A GPU with excellent hardware transcoding, and slotted VRAM for that local LLM fun. Plus an 8k projector for movie nights at the office. And a pony; every single one of these fucking kitchen timers must also come with a pony.

adtac 2y ago

Is there any message from the Flipper Zero people that this is actually their CEO? :)

diggan 2y ago
No need, the user profile (cryptographically) links to their keybase profiles which corroborates the identity. The future is here! :)
- roland35 2y ago
  And... How do we know the key base profile is correct?
  - diggan 2y ago
    Here is how Keybase works: https://book.keybase.io/docs/server https://book.keybase.io/docs/server Then take a look at the HN profile, which leads you to the Keybase profile.
    - bloopernova 2y ago
      I really wish keybase had taken off. I should have realized it was going to fail once they started adding the cryptocurrency wallet.
      - diggan 2y ago
        Keyoxide seems OK as an alternative: https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVKWT4VI https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVK... Doesn't have any of the social "features".
- rtpg 2y ago
  Funnily, the way I used to check Keybase profiles is to check Twitter because a blue checkmark there was usually a good indication of them being "the famous person" but thanks to Twitter Blue that feature is no longer usable. I understand Keybase allows you to link up a bunch of accounts, but it doesn't prevent you from making all of those accounts say you are the CEO/CTO of some company unfortunately.

m463 2y ago

unrelated: how come you can't buy your device on amazon?

therein 2y ago

Looks nice. We should have known from the way it looks that it is either you guys or Teenage Engineering.

hiisukun 2y ago

I'd love for this thing to be feature-flexible enough to use it for the exact opposite: running TV/screen/videogame timer for the kids! Looks great, love the dial/switch big button combo, and the opportunity to buy something attractive that's a "hackable screen with buttons" is very high for me. Another likely use is to be a controller for audiobooks or music in our rumpus if I ever get a hold of one. Again, drivable by kids and oldies who visit is a huge plus.

novok 2y ago

A version of this that would be useful for WFH or private offices is an 'on air' device that you could mount outside your office door, which means it's not connected to your computer and could potentially run on a battery for a week+ or run on usb power directly. People want to come in sometimes to access a closet, but they don't know if your in a meeting, so it would also need to detect if your in a meeting, and the microphone being on or off is not enough because people often mute themselves. Calendar access is also not enough because sometimes you start a meeting without a calendar thingy, and also knowing if your 'on air' with an open door can tell them if they have to be worried if they could be on camera if they walk by the door. It could be a very simple LED, it just needs a good agent on your desktop. Also a 'yellow light' for an upcoming meeting in a couple minutes (so this is where calendar access is useful) or an orange light for camera & microphone off.

mynameisvlad 2y ago
It seems like that's already supported considering there's mobile apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdevices.busybar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdev... They're referenced on the second picture on the site, with the backside of the device that shows you how to control it.

itomato 2y ago

This is better and more useful than the FlipperOne, I think.