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If you can't trust your locally installed software, everything is lost. I understand where this new threat model comes from for some people but I'd rather conti
by singpolyma3 2y ago
If you can't trust your locally installed software, everything is lost. I understand where this new threat model comes from for some people but I'd rather continue to avoid bad software sources than hamstring my OS in the hopes of avoiding malware I installed on purpose.
- l72 2y agoI agree. But can you trust Zoom? What about Office or Photoshop? Can you trust Websites or your browser anymore? Even open source apps have analytics in them that may not be trustworthy anymore (firefox, audacity, ...).
- singpolyma3 2y agoThis is why I don't run Zoom or Office or Photoshop or versions of Firefox or Audacity not distributed by Debian. Browser sandboxes pretty heavily though of course one does want to be a bit careful there too.
- jrm4 2y agoI teach online for a living, and -- yep Zoom through FIREFOX only. Coincidentally, it's also the best experience, for whatever reason it's the only on that supports virtual backgrounds on Linux for me? Neither Chrome nor Desktop seem to work for this.
- lupusreal 2y agoZoom through a browser only. As for the rest, they may have "analytics" (spyware) but are there any documented cases of any of them acting as an X11 keyloggers or covertly screenshotting the users desktop? Those are the threats Wayland asks us to fear. And Wayland won't protect us from the rest. If Firefox or Audacity phone home with reports about what I'm doing with those applications, Wayland won't stand in the way.
- marcosdumay 2y ago> If you can't trust your locally installed software, everything is lost. That's only true if you decide to trust it. You can deal perfectly well with software you distrust, and not have it harm your system.
- singpolyma3 2y agoYes. By not running it.