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As essential as smoking ban. I won't be surprised to see this expanded to adult situations
by seydor 2y ago
As essential as smoking ban. I won't be surprised to see this expanded to adult situations
- eloisius 2y agoGod, I’d love to see the smartphone/no smartphone sections in restaurants.
- sebzim4500 2y agoWhat would be the point of a no smartphone section in a restaurant? A concert would make sense though IMO.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> What would be the point of a no smartphone section in a restaurant? It elevates the experience. Going back to the class thing [1], cell phone on the table or cell-phone use during dining is a noticeable thing between e.g. Michelin-starred restaurants and diners. (And I’m only counting N > 1 tables.) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41820633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41820633
- ruthmarx 2y ago> It elevates the experience. For who? Not for the people who might want to use one, and for the people who get annoyed seeing someone else using one, that's their problem.
- Dylan16807 2y ago> Not for the people who might want to use one A lot of the people that might want to use one would in fact have a better experience if there was zero or minimal phone use at their table.
- ruthmarx 2y agoNah. What's true for you isn't true for everyone. If I go on a date in a high end restaurant and hit it off with my date, I might want to show her something briefly or look up something, and we would both be on bored with it and having a good time. In that case, the phone is enhancing the experience, not taking away from it.
- Dylan16807 2y ago> What's true for you isn't true for everyone. That is why I said "a lot", not everyone. Your "Nah." is not true, by your own argument. > briefly There is a reason I said "or minimal". That's minimal.
- ruthmarx 2y agoThe problem with your point is your making an unwarranted assumption about most people. It's no different from insisting someone would like a variation of something they have no interest if they would only try it. Or to put it in simpler terms, you seem to think you know better than "a lot" of people.
- consteval 2y agoI mean, yes: this point is true. Usually that's how things are. It's not a matter of knowing better, it's a matter of people not considering X. If they don't think about X they wouldn't even know to change it or try something else. Truly, you don't know something until you try it. If you never try it you just don't know. At least for most things, some things are obvious. Also, there's arguments about phones being addictive. That changes things a lot.
- ruthmarx 2y ago> I mean, yes: this point is true. Usually that's how things are. Strongly disagree. > It's not a matter of knowing better, it's a matter of people not considering X. You're making the same mistake the other fellow is; you're assuming the other people haven't considered x, when they likely have.
- bavell 2y agoThe band Tool does this - they ask for no phones and no photos during the show (except the last song)
- insane_dreamer 2y agosmartphone-free cafes are starting to pop up [0] [0] https://www.facebook.com/reel/1041312411329542 https://www.facebook.com/reel/1041312411329542
- consf 2y agoImagine walking into a restaurant and being asked, "Smartphone section or no smartphone section?"
- itronitron 2y agoI'd prefer to be asked "loud music, or no loud music?"
- consf 2y ago[dead]
- swah 2y agoWhy not ban at the door? Why not iPhone only?
- wyldfire 2y agoI'd like one for my living room. Can we just watch the show together? Otherwise we might as well be doing our own totally separate activities.
- tuna74 2y agoYou (plural!) can make your own rules in your own living room.
- dopylitty 2y agoIt should've been expanded into driving a long time ago. There are laws against distracted driving but I still see people weaving around like they're drunk on the roads. When I look into the car they're usually holding a phone (on speakerphone) or holding it up to their ear. People suck at driving enough as it is without driving one handed and distracted.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoIsn't it already illegal in most places? (sure peolpe do it anyway, but if you're caught there are heavy fines)
- consteval 2y agoThey're never caught
- whaleofatw2022 2y agoLast year in Michigan it was made a primary offense. Driving was really pleasant for a month or two and they realized nobody enforces it where it would help most.
- wildzzz 2y agoMontana is still legal apparently but I'm sure cops could write you a ticket for the infractions you commit while on your phone, just not for the phone itself.
- ericmay 2y agoIn addition to the added crashes and deaths caused by mobile phone usage, state and federal leaders should be setting agendas that reduce car usage altogether to prevent deaths and injuries and pivot toward safer and by far cheaper modes of transit.
- l33t7332273 2y agoThey’re not even talking much of the time, they’re texting (or worse, scrolling some social media)
- consf 2y ago[dead]
- swiftcoder 2y agoWeddings in particular seem to have evolved "check your phone at the door" policies. Though perhaps mostly to keep folks from ruining the professional photographers shots by constantly diving into the action with cameraphones/flashes blazing...
- Der_Einzige 2y agoDo people not have courtesy and decorum anymore??? I won’t give up my phone because I’m not stupid enough to take it out during a ceremony. I’ve been to several wedding ceremonies of somewhat large size where no one took their phones out, and certainly not for photos. Did trust in society hit a new low while I wasn’t looking?
- mananaysiempre 2y ago> "check your phone at the door" policies No, no, no. A device in a (near-)stranger’s unsupervised physical possession for hours is a compromised device. No.
- consteval 2y agoOkay so leave it in your locked car...
- kelnos 2y agoConceptually I like the idea of giving everyone a locking pouch to put the phone in, with the ability to unlock it provided at the end of the event. That way the phone never leaves your person, but is unusable. But at the same time this sort of thing would also make me kinda annoyed (as I have no problem, generally, keeping my phone in my pocket, on silent, when having it out is inappropriate0.
- tylergetsay 2y agoNot really, a phone in first boot not unlocked state is secure against most threat models
- fnfjfk 2y agoIs your threat model really that people whose wedding you're attending are trying to exploit your phone..?
- ruthmarx 2y agoYour comment would only make make sense in a dictatorship IMO. Smoking, nor mobile phones should be banned for adults.