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Naples, Rome, Milan, Genoa, and Turin are just cities in Italy; I'm not sure what's childish about that. They have to use something for codenames.

by wmf 2y ago

diffeomorphism 2y ago
The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. That brand name has been used since 2017 but if you don't know that, it sounds quite gamery nowadays. Admittedly I also have no idea why Intel calls theirs Xeon, which sounds like misspelled xenon. But then it might be a proper Greek word?
- justincormack 2y ago
  Trademarks are easier if they are not words (no prior use or conflicts), but having them be like words is easier so people can say them.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  > The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. The criticism above says "Turin, Epyc and lord knows what else". That clearly includes the codenames.
fecal_henge 2y ago
Whats wrong with an arbitary 16 digit number?
- abenga 2y ago
  I'm sure each of the products has a numeric identifier. One can use that if they feel pressed by the "childish" names.
  - fecal_henge 2y ago
    5318008
  - formerly_proven 2y ago
    AMD CPUs have pretty small numbers for that, e.g. 100-000000651 or 100-000000789. They almost look wrong with so many zeroes. Zen/+/2 parts have part numbers like YD160XBCM6IAE (which is similar to the part numbers of much older AMD CPUs, which is apparently the AMD Ordering Part Number, OPN, scheme, and every digit codes information about the CPU). Zen 3 started with the new scheme, which just seem to be sequential development numbers. E.g. 3800X is 100-000000022. Here's a list: https://mkdev.info/?p=1245 https://mkdev.info/?p=1245
    - fph 2y ago
      They left enough leading zeros in there to make room for future revisions until the death of the universe.
    - 1f60c 2y ago
      Just use scientific notation. :-)
- libertine 2y ago
  They're hard to understand and memorize. The marketing departments of monitor manufacturers still haven't figured this one out yet.
fph 2y ago
Ah, I was unsure if it was named after the city or the [Tolkien character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BArin_Turambar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BArin_Turambar).

Naples, Rome, Milan, Genoa, and Turin are just cities in Italy; I'm not sure what's childish about that. They have to use something for codenames.

by wmf 2y ago

Naples, Rome, Milan, Genoa, and Turin are just cities in Italy; I'm not sure what's childish about that. They have to use something for codenames.

diffeomorphism 2y ago

The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. That brand name has been used since 2017 but if you don't know that, it sounds quite gamery nowadays. Admittedly I also have no idea why Intel calls theirs Xeon, which sounds like misspelled xenon. But then it might be a proper Greek word?

justincormack 2y ago
Trademarks are easier if they are not words (no prior use or conflicts), but having them be like words is easier so people can say them.
Dylan16807 2y ago
> The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. The criticism above says "Turin, Epyc and lord knows what else". That clearly includes the codenames.

fecal_henge 2y ago

Whats wrong with an arbitary 16 digit number?

abenga 2y ago
I'm sure each of the products has a numeric identifier. One can use that if they feel pressed by the "childish" names.
- fecal_henge 2y ago
  5318008
- formerly_proven 2y ago
  AMD CPUs have pretty small numbers for that, e.g. 100-000000651 or 100-000000789. They almost look wrong with so many zeroes. Zen/+/2 parts have part numbers like YD160XBCM6IAE (which is similar to the part numbers of much older AMD CPUs, which is apparently the AMD Ordering Part Number, OPN, scheme, and every digit codes information about the CPU). Zen 3 started with the new scheme, which just seem to be sequential development numbers. E.g. 3800X is 100-000000022. Here's a list: https://mkdev.info/?p=1245 https://mkdev.info/?p=1245
  - fph 2y ago
    They left enough leading zeros in there to make room for future revisions until the death of the universe.
  - 1f60c 2y ago
    Just use scientific notation. :-)
libertine 2y ago
They're hard to understand and memorize. The marketing departments of monitor manufacturers still haven't figured this one out yet.

fph 2y ago

Ah, I was unsure if it was named after the city or the [Tolkien character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BArin_Turambar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BArin_Turambar).