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Not to take away from your main point: The only reason it is hard to get ECC in a desktop is because it is used as customer segmentation, not because it if tech
by spockz 2y ago
Not to take away from your main point: The only reason it is hard to get ECC in a desktop is because it is used as customer segmentation, not because it if technically hard or because it would drive the actual cost of the hardware up.
- sitkack 2y agoECC should be mandatory in consumer and cpus and memory. This will be seen like cars with fins and not having seatbelts in the future.
- Animats 2y agoI have a desktop where CPU, OS and motherboard all support it. But ECC memory wa hard to find. Memory with useless LEDs, though, is easily available.
- spockz 2y agoThat is because it doesn’t make sense producing a product that cannot be used at all. It just doesn’t work in consumer boards due to lack of support for it in consumer CPUs. Again due to artificial customer segmentation.
- c0balt 2y agoMost ryzen CPUs have supported some ECC RAM for multiple years by now. The HED platforms, like Thread Ripper, did too. It just hasn't really been advertised as much because most consumers don't appear to be willing to pay the higher cost.
- PhilipRoman 2y agoOk, I'll bite - what tangible benefit would ECC give to the average consumer? I'd wager in the real world 1000x more data loss/corruption happens due to HDD/SSD failure with no backups. Personally I genuinely don't care about ECC ram and I would not pay more than $10 additional price to get it.
- adastra22 2y agoMost users experience data loss due to ECC these days. They just might not attribute it to cosmic rays. It's kinda hard to tell ECC data loss apart from intermittent hardware failure. It can be just as catastrophic though, if the bit flip hits a critical bit of information and ends up corrupting the disk entirely.
- immibis 2y agoMy Threadripper 7000 system with ECC DDR5 and MCE logging reports a corrected bit error every few hours, but I've got no idea if that's normal. I assume it was a tradeoff for memory density.
- MichaelZuo 2y agoThis, memory densities are so high nowadays it’s almost guaranteed that a new computer bought in 2024 will hard fault with actual consequences (crashing, corrupted data, etc…) at least once a year due to lack of ECC.