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1. This kind of browsing is more likely to be done on a phone, in private. I find the scenario a bit contrived in 2024. 2. It seems a bit weird to be concerned

1. This kind of browsing is more likely to be done on a phone, in private. I find the scenario a bit contrived in 2024. 2. It seems a bit weird to be concerned about UI patterns if you earnestly want this component to do its job. 3. If it's that important, the Escape key event can be added after DOMContentLoaded. Warn content authors to not overuse the component, and it would be fine. You can still have the triple-Shift key event for those cases that they specifically call out.

FridgeSeal 2y ago
Its entirely plausible that someone in an abusive relationship is a number of mitigating circumstances: - they don’t have a smartphone, or it’s been taken off them - they’re forced to use a desktop because their abuser doesn’t want them to do things in private easily - plausibly mobile has something different entirely, given that this appears to be desktop focused. - They mention escape is intercepted by most browsers to stop loading, if someone is interrupted midway and panics and starts hitting escape, they could plausibly end up _stuck_ on the page they were trying to hide from their abuser.
- thecatspaw 2y ago
  to fix the interrupt issue they could initially load a page with begnign information, and then load the help text afterwards
frereubu 2y ago
1. A large number of people who need this service are likely to be victims of various forms of coercive control. This is a decent, quick summary of what that means in practice (PDF): https://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/One%20minute%20guides/One%20Minute%20Guide%20-%20Coercive%20Control%20Offence.pdf https://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/One%20minute%20guides/One%20Mi... 2. I don't understand this comment. Surely this is a perfect example of when you want a component to work as well as possible, including UI research? 3. The mAjor point here is that the functionality of the escape key is ambiguous. It can do various things in various contexts, so you can't rely on people to use it for that, and visitors can't rely on it because it might just e.g. minimise a maximised window on MacOS, leaving the website on-screen.

FridgeSeal 2y ago

Its entirely plausible that someone in an abusive relationship is a number of mitigating circumstances: - they don’t have a smartphone, or it’s been taken off them - they’re forced to use a desktop because their abuser doesn’t want them to do things in private easily - plausibly mobile has something different entirely, given that this appears to be desktop focused. - They mention escape is intercepted by most browsers to stop loading, if someone is interrupted midway and panics and starts hitting escape, they could plausibly end up _stuck_ on the page they were trying to hide from their abuser.

thecatspaw 2y ago
to fix the interrupt issue they could initially load a page with begnign information, and then load the help text afterwards

frereubu 2y ago

1. A large number of people who need this service are likely to be victims of various forms of coercive control. This is a decent, quick summary of what that means in practice (PDF): https://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/One%20minute%20guides/One%20Minute%20Guide%20-%20Coercive%20Control%20Offence.pdf https://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/One%20minute%20guides/One%20Mi... 2. I don't understand this comment. Surely this is a perfect example of when you want a component to work as well as possible, including UI research? 3. The mAjor point here is that the functionality of the escape key is ambiguous. It can do various things in various contexts, so you can't rely on people to use it for that, and visitors can't rely on it because it might just e.g. minimise a maximised window on MacOS, leaving the website on-screen.