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It was a source loose of inspiration for sure, but it still have nothing to do with neurosciences. “Neural” network are as close to actual nervous system as th

It was a source loose of inspiration for sure, but it still have nothing to do with neurosciences. “Neural” network are as close to actual nervous system as the “Democratic” Republic of Korea is to democracy.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
Well, come on, not that far apart. When I see someone trying this hard to be smart I just hear "REEEEEEEEE" or "Well actually......"
elcomet 2y ago
You're mistaken. The perceptron was invented by Rosenblatt, a psychologist. This field has deep roots in neuroscience.
- scarmig 2y ago
  McCulloch and Rumelhart were psychologists as well.
- almostgotcaught 2y ago
  People always repeat these stupid things like they're lore. Ok let's suppose this is true. What else is true is that neurology itself was inspired by phrenology and the practice of exorcisms. Should we now start recognizing and exalting those connections given how divorced modern (useful!) neurology is?
  - SkyBelow 2y ago
    Major distinction given those practices have been abandoned as pseudo science or even worse, so they aren't fields of science continued to be developed which further useful connections might be found. In psychiatry, there is a certain amount that we continue to study social standards of normalcy in other (including historic) societies to determine what should count as a mental disorder, but more to make sure we aren't doing a 21st century equivalent of labeling something as a demon possession because it contrasts with our current deeply held social norms.
  - scarmig 2y ago
    Hinton's most recent paper on forward-forward acknowledges Peter Dayan explicitly for his feedback on the paper, and cites a paper they cowrote together back in the 90s. Dayan being the author of the canonical textbook on theoretical neuroscience.
SkyBelow 2y ago
>nothing to do with So what is the meaning of to do with and nothing to do with? Inspiration seems to be a relationship. Consider a different relationship between cellular biology and the Cells at Work anime. Clearly any relationship is unidirectional. Any cellular biology learns nothing from the anime, but the anime wouldn't exist without cellular biology. Do we say the show has nothing to do with cellular biology? That doesn't seem right to me, given it depends upon it despite taking an amazing degree of artistic freedom.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago

Well, come on, not that far apart. When I see someone trying this hard to be smart I just hear "REEEEEEEEE" or "Well actually......"

elcomet 2y ago

You're mistaken. The perceptron was invented by Rosenblatt, a psychologist. This field has deep roots in neuroscience.

scarmig 2y ago
McCulloch and Rumelhart were psychologists as well.
almostgotcaught 2y ago
People always repeat these stupid things like they're lore. Ok let's suppose this is true. What else is true is that neurology itself was inspired by phrenology and the practice of exorcisms. Should we now start recognizing and exalting those connections given how divorced modern (useful!) neurology is?
- SkyBelow 2y ago
  Major distinction given those practices have been abandoned as pseudo science or even worse, so they aren't fields of science continued to be developed which further useful connections might be found. In psychiatry, there is a certain amount that we continue to study social standards of normalcy in other (including historic) societies to determine what should count as a mental disorder, but more to make sure we aren't doing a 21st century equivalent of labeling something as a demon possession because it contrasts with our current deeply held social norms.
- scarmig 2y ago
  Hinton's most recent paper on forward-forward acknowledges Peter Dayan explicitly for his feedback on the paper, and cites a paper they cowrote together back in the 90s. Dayan being the author of the canonical textbook on theoretical neuroscience.

SkyBelow 2y ago

>nothing to do with So what is the meaning of to do with and nothing to do with? Inspiration seems to be a relationship. Consider a different relationship between cellular biology and the Cells at Work anime. Clearly any relationship is unidirectional. Any cellular biology learns nothing from the anime, but the anime wouldn't exist without cellular biology. Do we say the show has nothing to do with cellular biology? That doesn't seem right to me, given it depends upon it despite taking an amazing degree of artistic freedom.