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Almost as crazy as not wanting your DNA or biometrics in government databases, amirite? The arguments haven't changed much either. Here's "you have nothing to

Almost as crazy as not wanting your DNA or biometrics in government databases, amirite? The arguments haven't changed much either. Here's "you have nothing to hide if you're not breaking the law": > “Numbering would be an advantage to motorists who were gentlemen and drove with consideration, as it would show that they were not driving in such a way as to make them ashamed of identification”. But this one was prescient: “It will be easy to get restrictions passed, but to remove them is the work of a lifetime,”

pflanze 2y ago
I wonder if they sensed that at some point number plates would be automatically recorded wherever you drive, even when not causing an accident or doing anything illegal. Just a funny coincidence or is there some connection?: OP writes that legislation started 1 January 1904, which happens to be the time epoch in the classic Mac OS, which was released in 1984 with the well-known 1984-styled commercial.
jmclnx 2y ago
>Almost as crazy as not wanting your DNA or biometrics in government databases, amirite? Not really :) Biometrics being known, at least in the US, has the potential of Insurance Companies denying health coverage based upon what they see in your genes. Right now that is illegal. Number plates on Autos only drawback is you being located after a hit-and-run and other such acts.
- c22 2y ago
  Maybe insurance companies with a good network of plate readers decide to increase your premiums because you park in a neighborhood known for auto break-ins. Or they deny you entirely because your commute takes you on a windy road known to have a +30% accident rate.
  - jmclnx 2y ago
    >Maybe insurance companies with a good network of plate readers decide to increase your premiums because you park in a neighborhood known for auto break-ins This already happens, it is based upon your Zip Code in the State I am in >Or they deny you entirely because your commute takes you on a windy road known to have a +30% accident rate. This is interesting and a possibility, plus maybe the can track your speed too.
stavros 2y ago
Because the argument that if you aren't breaking the law you shouldn't be afraid isn't a bad argument in itself. Nobody wants to go back to a time where you could kill ten people, move one town over, change your name, and you're off the hook. The problem is when these schemes are abused, so we always need to weigh the benefits we get from identification/tracking against the possibility of abuse.
- mindslight 2y ago
  In 2024, abuse is pervasive with the widespread deployment of ANPR. I'd really love to see some state start offering privacy plates based on e-ink that rotate numbers every few minutes. And split authority with an audit log for when the privacy needs to be broken of course.

pflanze 2y ago

I wonder if they sensed that at some point number plates would be automatically recorded wherever you drive, even when not causing an accident or doing anything illegal. Just a funny coincidence or is there some connection?: OP writes that legislation started 1 January 1904, which happens to be the time epoch in the classic Mac OS, which was released in 1984 with the well-known 1984-styled commercial.

jmclnx 2y ago

>Almost as crazy as not wanting your DNA or biometrics in government databases, amirite? Not really :) Biometrics being known, at least in the US, has the potential of Insurance Companies denying health coverage based upon what they see in your genes. Right now that is illegal. Number plates on Autos only drawback is you being located after a hit-and-run and other such acts.

c22 2y ago
Maybe insurance companies with a good network of plate readers decide to increase your premiums because you park in a neighborhood known for auto break-ins. Or they deny you entirely because your commute takes you on a windy road known to have a +30% accident rate.
- jmclnx 2y ago
  >Maybe insurance companies with a good network of plate readers decide to increase your premiums because you park in a neighborhood known for auto break-ins This already happens, it is based upon your Zip Code in the State I am in >Or they deny you entirely because your commute takes you on a windy road known to have a +30% accident rate. This is interesting and a possibility, plus maybe the can track your speed too.

stavros 2y ago

Because the argument that if you aren't breaking the law you shouldn't be afraid isn't a bad argument in itself. Nobody wants to go back to a time where you could kill ten people, move one town over, change your name, and you're off the hook. The problem is when these schemes are abused, so we always need to weigh the benefits we get from identification/tracking against the possibility of abuse.

mindslight 2y ago
In 2024, abuse is pervasive with the widespread deployment of ANPR. I'd really love to see some state start offering privacy plates based on e-ink that rotate numbers every few minutes. And split authority with an audit log for when the privacy needs to be broken of course.