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I'm not surprised. If you do this again, maybe put a disclaimer at the top. Simply mentioning emacs will likely get you points with many. Sometimes you just ha

by phibz 2y ago

I'm not surprised. If you do this again, maybe put a disclaimer at the top. Simply mentioning emacs will likely get you points with many. Sometimes you just have to take it on the chin and move on. I noped out of intelligence test when looking in 2020. It was a series of extremely difficult word problems that go increasingly harder. There were more questions than you could solve. You were judged on accuracy and speed. I took a 15 minute practice test and after a few minutes called the recruiter. You wanna talk architecture, you wanna judge critical thinking with programming challenges sure. But this, he'll no.

timr 2y ago
> Sometimes you just have to take it on the chin and move on. ...or you just stop. I basically stopped being an engineer and moved over to PM because I couldn't take the stupidity of tech interviews anymore. It's just such a myopic way of doing things, and it only rewards youth, inexperience and the "raw horsepower" dimension of the problem. I tried to imagine being 50+ years old with 30+ years of industry experience, and having somebody 2 weeks out of Foo Bootcamp judging me for not implementing some trending version of towers of hanoi quickly enough while tapdancing backwards [1]. It all started to feel like a sick game, designed to keep the rats fighting in the pit. PM interviews certainly have their own problems, but they tend to be the sort that reflect the actual difficulties of hiring a human who has to work with other humans on hard intellectual problems. It's squishy and messy and hard to quantify, and you can't do it with an "objective" test. Bad people can fake their way through the process on occasion, but then again...I've seen plenty of terrible engineers who do well on leetcode questions, too. I miss coding sometimes, but whenever I get the urge to go back, the thought of having to do the leetcode gauntlet annoys me enough to keep me away. [1] Meanwhile, the CEO of the company is likely running the entire organization with minimal prior relevant experience; the investors/board of directors got their jobs because they were in the same fraternity; most everyone else on the executive team got there via glorified personality interviews (and a healthy dose of "who do you know?") Objective tests of competence are only for the little people, you see!

by phibz 2y ago

timr 2y ago

> Sometimes you just have to take it on the chin and move on. ...or you just stop. I basically stopped being an engineer and moved over to PM because I couldn't take the stupidity of tech interviews anymore. It's just such a myopic way of doing things, and it only rewards youth, inexperience and the "raw horsepower" dimension of the problem. I tried to imagine being 50+ years old with 30+ years of industry experience, and having somebody 2 weeks out of Foo Bootcamp judging me for not implementing some trending version of towers of hanoi quickly enough while tapdancing backwards [1]. It all started to feel like a sick game, designed to keep the rats fighting in the pit. PM interviews certainly have their own problems, but they tend to be the sort that reflect the actual difficulties of hiring a human who has to work with other humans on hard intellectual problems. It's squishy and messy and hard to quantify, and you can't do it with an "objective" test. Bad people can fake their way through the process on occasion, but then again...I've seen plenty of terrible engineers who do well on leetcode questions, too. I miss coding sometimes, but whenever I get the urge to go back, the thought of having to do the leetcode gauntlet annoys me enough to keep me away. [1] Meanwhile, the CEO of the company is likely running the entire organization with minimal prior relevant experience; the investors/board of directors got their jobs because they were in the same fraternity; most everyone else on the executive team got there via glorified personality interviews (and a healthy dose of "who do you know?") Objective tests of competence are only for the little people, you see!