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this is not how money transfer works in Brazil, Judicial fines are paid using a GRU (is a type of document that you generate in the goverment IRS site, with th

this is not how money transfer works in Brazil, Judicial fines are paid using a GRU (is a type of document that you generate in the goverment IRS site, with the codes that you type in the bank and it transfers the money). If any of the info dosent match, the money is not transfered. IF they paid the wrong account, someone in the goverment fucked up. Source: I was sued by the brazilian govement because my accountant fucked up and had to hirre a layer to negotiate and paied my fees in the course of 10 years.

major505 2y ago
It would not be the first time the govermnet fucked up in this case. They sended the judicial notice for Twitter legal representation but someone typed the wrong email address. Since they did not receive the notice, they did not replied, and the Judge made a threat to arrest the legal repsentative, Rachel de Oliveira Villa Nova Conceição. Thats why Elon Musk decided to close the local office, so his employes would not be implied in his decision to not cooperate with the goverment. Alexandre the Moraes pretty much ignored the constitution in every step this proccess. This comment will be downvoted to hell, but reality is reality.
- meiraleal 2y ago
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forinti 2y ago
I'm pretty sure you can make a mistake filling out a GRU. You have to fill in the destination and I bet this is where somebody made a mistake. I'm also sure it will take some time and patience to get it sorted.
cesarb 2y ago
> Judicial fines are paid using a GRU According to the official decision from the judge (https://noticias-stf-wp-prd.s3.sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/wpallimport/uploads/2024/10/04191711/Pet-12404-deposito.pdf https://noticias-stf-wp-prd.s3.sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-co...), the value was deposited using a DJE (Documento para Depósitos Judiciais ou Extrajudiciais), not a GRU. The judge ordered the bank to transfer the value to the correct account. (source for the official decision: https://noticias.stf.jus.br/postsnoticias/stf-determina-transferencia-para-conta-correta-de-valores-depositados-pela-rede-social-x/ https://noticias.stf.jus.br/postsnoticias/stf-determina-tran...)
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  Ok, that makes sense. I guess a good international translation would be "Twitter created an account they can't withdraw, and deposited the money there. The Brazilian Judiciary can say where the money goes to, but it was not sent to the government yet."

major505 2y ago

It would not be the first time the govermnet fucked up in this case. They sended the judicial notice for Twitter legal representation but someone typed the wrong email address. Since they did not receive the notice, they did not replied, and the Judge made a threat to arrest the legal repsentative, Rachel de Oliveira Villa Nova Conceição. Thats why Elon Musk decided to close the local office, so his employes would not be implied in his decision to not cooperate with the goverment. Alexandre the Moraes pretty much ignored the constitution in every step this proccess. This comment will be downvoted to hell, but reality is reality.

meiraleal 2y ago
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forinti 2y ago

I'm pretty sure you can make a mistake filling out a GRU. You have to fill in the destination and I bet this is where somebody made a mistake. I'm also sure it will take some time and patience to get it sorted.

cesarb 2y ago

> Judicial fines are paid using a GRU According to the official decision from the judge (https://noticias-stf-wp-prd.s3.sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/wpallimport/uploads/2024/10/04191711/Pet-12404-deposito.pdf https://noticias-stf-wp-prd.s3.sa-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-co...), the value was deposited using a DJE (Documento para Depósitos Judiciais ou Extrajudiciais), not a GRU. The judge ordered the bank to transfer the value to the correct account. (source for the official decision: https://noticias.stf.jus.br/postsnoticias/stf-determina-transferencia-para-conta-correta-de-valores-depositados-pela-rede-social-x/ https://noticias.stf.jus.br/postsnoticias/stf-determina-tran...)

marcosdumay 2y ago
Ok, that makes sense. I guess a good international translation would be "Twitter created an account they can't withdraw, and deposited the money there. The Brazilian Judiciary can say where the money goes to, but it was not sent to the government yet."