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Is there any chance for twitter to be saved ?
by arromatic 2y ago
Is there any chance for twitter to be saved ?
- LeoPanthera 2y agoThere is nothing left to save.
- throw-the-towel 2y agoThere never was. Twitter was always a cancer, and if Musk does manage to drive it into the ground then he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for this.
- ben_w 2y agoIf it worked for Kissinger, I don't see why not.
- tbrownaw 2y agoIt has longposts now, so that's an improvement at least.
- arromatic 2y agoHow ? Are long text for a social media that has 24 hour lifetime and exclusive to premium users worth it . I would be nice if it was available for all , since sometimes you need more than 280 character to express your self .
- always_imposter 2y ago>Twitter was always a cancer You know they don't literally mean that right? This joke is seriously getting tired imo. Twitter actually has an established space in discourse and it shapes conversations or used to shape conversations. It has literally helped people get resources during times of crisis, most recent event where twitter helped people real time was during Covid in 2021, here in India. People were exchanging info real time for oxygen cylinders and during this crisis they made a special section for it as well which updated very frequently so people could get help or give help. When our govt didn't do shit, Twitter helped. There are many such examples, Twitter is(was) always at the fore front whenever there was some war/event happening and reporters preferred to post updates on twitter real time instead of their news boards. You might not see value in it, but if it goes away, I doubt that space will be filled easily. Threads is for entertainment. I don't see any of the "threads" on that platform making to mainstream discourse. Let's please stop making this tired argument. Twitter is really important for humanity whether you believe it or not.
- talldayo 2y agoTwitter shouldn't be privately owned. That's the problem - Jack Dorsey wasn't able to promise a non-censored town hall and neither was Musk. They are running a business that is inherently at-odds with the ideal of informing people. They can't make money just providing Twitter - as a business it doesn't work. The utility Twitter provided isn't written-off, but it really shouldn't have happened on a for-profit advertising platform. What people are unwilling to accept is that Twitter was lightning in a bottle - it won't come back because everyone learned the lesson that it doesn't make money. You can either move onto a radical platform that tries to fix the original sin (eg. Mastodon/BlueSky/Nostr) or you can stick with the huddled masses that rely on a censored and monetized platform to speak freely online.
- ipaddr 2y agoThe radical platform alternatives still censor and often to the whims of a random person. It's like a reddit subreddit or wikipedia article: you are censored by the moods of the admin. They are privately owned.
- talldayo 2y agoThe solution is easy; host your own instance. Federated solutions let you put your money where your mouth is and host yourself to your own content. If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. Allow-only instances won't show your content but chances are they won't show most content. These are hugboxy environments you'd probably not want to be around anyways (and they sure don't want to be around you). Block-only instances will show your content as long as it doesn't piss them off. If you are being racist or posting illegal content, you're gonna get muted. They have absolutely no obligation to propagate your content if you're not going to reach bare-minimum decorum.
- Freedom2 2y ago> If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. The assumption that useful speech goes viral is incredibly misjudged.
- wruza 2y agoThankfully twitter format will autodie soon with newer generations.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago> Twitter was always a cancer, Twitter is the ONLY social network that is actually social, and attempts to connect strangers. Contrary to Facebook, etc where you need to be ‘friends’ first.
- wruza 2y agoThis isn’t even at odds. Connecting strangers historically was one of the main recipes for social fireworks.
- threeseed 2y agoReddit, Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky, Instagram, TikTok etc. Even Facebook has features for connecting strangers e.g. Groups.
- arromatic 2y agoReddit ? that's a forum for content generation Mastodon ? No one knows you unless you have other socials Instagram ? it blocks pc traffic , no retweet Threads ? maybe the only one viable but it's meta Facebook ? Um good luck Tiktok ? It's just videos , it's far from soical media .
- matheusmoreira 2y agoX's crowdsourced fact checking is a really good feature. It's worth using for that alone. The pathological liars at the brazilian government would get fact checked on a daily basis.
- stroupwaffle 2y agoThe fact that everyone still calls it twitter answers your question. =) Maybe if he reverts the name.
- johnchristopher 2y agoI haven't updated the twitter app just to keep the bird (no, more like I find the X ugly), mayyyybe I can make this phone last long enough so I never actually see the X.
- canadiantim 2y agoit already has been
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> any chance for twitter to be saved ? Define saved.
- throw-the-towel 2y agoHell, define "Twitter" too. Does GP mean the company? The user community, whatever that is? Some core functionality of the site?
- arromatic 2y agoBankruptcy , Spam , Branding , Workforce .
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoX/Twitter going bankrupt would be a choice by Musk. He presently shows no indication of having lost love for it.
- arromatic 2y agoIt's bleeding users. Bleeding users = no revenue . He can't sustain it forever from his pocket and lost user means the platform is as worthless as a random mastodon instance that no one knows about.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> can't sustain it forever from his pocket Why not? Even if he doesn't restructure the debt he's basically created, in xAI, enough personal wealth to bankroll X/Twitter for a decade.
- threatofrain 2y agoLikely not worth it — consider the kinds of stuff Elon leads. Twitter is the least prestigious among them. He has far more interesting places to gamble on.
- threeseed 2y agoFidelity has said it is worth 1/5 of when Musk bought it. https://mashable.com/article/x-twitter-value-down-fidelity https://mashable.com/article/x-twitter-value-down-fidelity And so no it can't be saved if it continues on its current trajectory.
- aorloff 2y agoDepends if Elon bought out the bondholders yet
- verdverm 2y agoBluesky / ATProto is a better iteration that can be so much more in the long run
- arromatic 2y agoNo personalized algo in bsky. I don't want to see a thousand low quality post from a specific feed.
- verdverm 2y agoThe Discovery feed is personalized and very reminiscent of the twitter feed. The open protocol nature also means anyone can write any feed that works any way they want for anyone to use
- arromatic 2y agoThe discovery feed is barely functional . Dosen't learn what i want to see nor does the search . Open protocol and api is bskys best feature that i love but a real algo isn't one git clone away for average user nor it is is financially viable.
- verdverm 2y agoStill better than what Elon had been forcing into my Xitter feed before I left for good
- briandear 2y ago[flagged]
- threeseed 2y agoThere have been more government takedown requests actioned under Musk: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/25/elon-musk-x-twitter-free-speech-government-requests/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/25/elon-mu...
- sunaookami 2y agoThis is very misleading. >Comparing the 2021 report to the current X transparency report is a bit difficult, as the way the company measures different things has changed. For instance, in 2021, 11.6 million accounts were reported. Of this 11.6 million, 4.3 million were “actioned” and 1.3 million were suspended. According to the new X report, there were over 224 million reports, of both accounts and pieces of individual content, but the result was 5.2 million accounts being suspended. https://www.wired.com/story/x-twitter-first-transparency-report-since-elon-musks-takeover-is-finally-here/ https://www.wired.com/story/x-twitter-first-transparency-rep...
- threeseed 2y agoNot sure how it is misleading. You are comparing account reports versus account + content reports.
- ajoseps 2y agodon’t you still get flagged or removed for saying cisgender?
- arromatic 2y agoIt's worse than ever . Did you even read news related to twitter ? The X branding ? Mass layoff that's killing the development, Crypto spams ? , Blue check confusion , Link penalty ?