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Lost 1983 programming language resurrected by retro computing YouTube channel
- moribvndvs 2y agoThe modern maybe-AI generated, definitely SEO optimized method of writing where they spend 5 paragraphs restating the same thing in different ways when it could have been said in two sentences is unbearable.
- hagbard_c 2y agoHave one of the LLMs summarise the LLM-generated pablum? Do this a few times and you have a new version of the old 'Chinese/Russian Telegraph' game where a group of participants whisper a message around in a circle.
- andrewstuart 2y agoA better title would be "Former Star Wars actor and retro computing enthusiast Christian Simpson (Retro Recipes) finds lost programming language." With a link to the source YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvSlWLgXcsU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvSlWLgXcsU
- lysace 2y agoI watched all of that. Begrudgingly. So much video time. A decade ago it would have been a text format blog post with screenshots and downloadable binaries, and perhaps the occasional demo video. The same amount of information could be consumed in 5 minutes. Now we need to watch hours of overproduced youtube videos, because that's the way "creators get paid". We should have gotten micropayments to work in browsers instead. Google really did a number on the web.
- meow_catrix 2y agoWatching YouTube is essentially running a proof-of-work algorithm for someone else
- andrewstuart 2y agoRetro Recipes is entertainment, you’re meant to settle in and enjoy the personality that the host brings and the story that’s he’s presenting. It’s not meant to be a TLDR minimal words fact delivery post.
- vouaobrasil 2y agoWell, just want to point out that not all content creators do this. I have a channel and I make videos that are to the point and scripted. It probably won't interest you much but just saying that it IS possible to do it. I record a concise script AHEAD of time and the sync the recording to the script. And I still make money off it. So yeah, youtube videos CAN be concise, but I have actually two explanations for why many are not: 1. Most people want to put in mid-roll ads But that can't be the only reason -- if it were then a few creators could take over the market by making concise videos. So here's the second reason: 2. Many people watch YouTube for entertainment, not for learning information and they like to see long-form videos because they also want the pseudo-social interaction of watching their favourite creators. It doesn't appeal to me personally but it is what it is.
- swatcoder 2y ago> Now we need to watch hours of overproduced youtube videos, But we don't. Plenty of people just ignore all that stuff, and there remains an impossibly vast volume of old and new content to consume in other forms. I've probably watched a total of 3 hours of Youtube since it launched, and I don't feel even a little bit less informed for that. Would you really be worse off if you did something else with your time? Since you seem to prefer text, I'm sure there remain many stimulating blog posts (and books!) you haven't yet read. If people find that sharing their little hobby efforts by video is easier or makes for better inspiration, it's not coming at some cost to you. It's a different medium. Among both content creators and content consumers, some people prefer it, some don't.
- blame-troi 2y agoAmen. If I can’t read it I’m not likely to watch a video about it.
- kibwen 2y ago> We should have gotten micropayments to work in browsers instead. Sadly that would have only accelerated the enshittification. Commercial interests are what turned the web into slop. Remember when Usenet was originally rendered useless after succumbing to spam? That's the web as of 2024, and why we can't have nice things.
- lysace 2y agoPerhaps you're right, perhaps not. It feels like the mostly non-commercial web is like a fever dream now. I miss it. > Remember when Usenet was originally rendered useless after succumbing to spam? Yes, but then we repurposed it as a medium for distributing buffy the vampire slayer eps from some guy with a big sat dish who intercepted internal transmissions to local tv stations, so what we could see the next ep half a day in advance.
- Brian_K_White 2y agoThe purpose of a video like this is not to deliver data. Do you also spend 12 minutes smelling flowers and then complain that the gardener could have sent you a txt that said "they smell like flowers" so much more efficiently?
- lysace 2y agoMy point is that things that would previously have been 5 minute blog posts now are e.g. 90 minute video odysseys, and the primary cause is that's the way "creators get paid". I think this is bad for human progress.
- Brian_K_White 2y agoYou had no point. A blog post and a video are 2 different things. Shitter still has many many 5 minute reads if you only want that. They exist, and in greater numbers than ever, right now, today, despite "how creators get paid". The fact that you only want a soylent pill doesn't mean that a sit-down meal is some waste of time.
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- lysace 2y agoI feel like you are misrepresenting what I'm saying; perhaps on purpose, perhaps not. Either way, I don't want to continue this conversation. Good bye.
- pjmlp 2y agoThat is a generation gap as well, it appears younger folks don't read, everything must be video now.
- Doctor_Fegg 2y agoWeird that the photo of the eBayed disk is a Maxell CF2 - a 3in disk! These were standard on the Amstrad 8-bits (CPC/PCW) and the Sinclair Spectrum +3, after Amstrad bought the rights to the Spectrum, but I’d never seen them on a C64.
- sixothree 2y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_1581#:~:text=The%20Commodore%201581%20is%20a%203%C2%BD-inch https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_1581#:~:text=The%2...
- Doctor_Fegg 2y agoYes, that’s 3.5in. The picture in TFA is of a _3in_ disk.
- hnlmorg 2y ago3.5” disks were extremely common. Everything from Atari STs to programmable keyboards supported them. Plus they were the standard in PCs for a very long time. What the GP saw was 3” a disk (ie half an inch smaller). Those came with a harder plastic shell and were a lot less common except for a few specific systems (like the aforementioned Amstrad 8bit micros).
- hnlmorg 2y agoThat’s a very good spot! I know a few other systems outside of Europe had 3 inch disks, for example the Nintendo Famicom Disk System. But the FDS disks were intentionally different again to those Maxwell disks. Like yourself, never seen 3” disks on the C64 before.
- yumraj 2y agoI scanned the article, not a single line of code sample. Moving on…
- AnimalMuppet 2y agoThe language is MicroText (used to program the Commodore), for those who don't want to have to go to the article to find out that much.
- cafard 2y agoThank you.
- _spduchamp 2y agoHere's the manual... https://archive.org/download/microtext-user-guide-from-perifractic/Microtext%20User%20Guide%20from%20Perifractic.pdf https://archive.org/download/microtext-user-guide-from-perif... Here's the disk file you can load into your emulator... https://archive.org/download/microtext-user-guide-from-perifractic/microtxt.d64 https://archive.org/download/microtext-user-guide-from-perif...