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Hybrid is RTO. If I can’t live where I want to live and work from anywhere, it’s a non starter for me. In my little neck of the woods - cloud consulting/profe

Hybrid is RTO. If I can’t live where I want to live and work from anywhere, it’s a non starter for me. In my little neck of the woods - cloud consulting/professional services - Google is worse than Amazon where I just left last year. AWS ProServe never had a RTO mandate and from former coworkers I’ve talked to, still doesn’t. Google’s Cloud Consulting division does force a hybrid office schedule which is really dumb considering the work is both customer facing and requires a lot of travel

sitkack 2y ago
Well. Being tied to any one cloud is not a great position to be in. Not patronizing.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  You’re always locked in to your infrastructure. The entire idea of “cloud agnosticism” is BS. I’ve seen companies take over a year and thousands of man hours to move from VMs on premise to a cloud platform. Cloud agnosticism is hardly ever a business differentiator
  - glzone1 2y ago
    It's also not an advantage, I've seen endless complexity in abstractions on abstraction, fragility and giving up really nice cloud features for this. It'd take years to migrate STILL even with all that effort. And they can't ship features they are so busy worrying about AWS going away.
    - woooooo 2y ago
      Exception, companies like datadog where they're actually operating in several clouds for good business reasons (it's where their customers are).
abadpoli 2y ago
> AWS ProServe never had a RTO mandate Before Covid, no team had an RTO mandate, so ProServe wasn’t really special here. In ProServe you were still expected to be in an office regularly, but it was just understood that you wouldn’t be in an Amazon office all the time because you’re likely at a client’s office instead. Post-covid, it’s mostly the same, although now even many clients aren’t requiring consultants to come in. But when they do, you’re expected to be there.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  During the first wave of RTO and hybrid work, ProServe was exempted because it was considered “sales”. I was there then.

sitkack 2y ago

Well. Being tied to any one cloud is not a great position to be in. Not patronizing.

scarface_74 2y ago
You’re always locked in to your infrastructure. The entire idea of “cloud agnosticism” is BS. I’ve seen companies take over a year and thousands of man hours to move from VMs on premise to a cloud platform. Cloud agnosticism is hardly ever a business differentiator
- glzone1 2y ago
  It's also not an advantage, I've seen endless complexity in abstractions on abstraction, fragility and giving up really nice cloud features for this. It'd take years to migrate STILL even with all that effort. And they can't ship features they are so busy worrying about AWS going away.
  - woooooo 2y ago
    Exception, companies like datadog where they're actually operating in several clouds for good business reasons (it's where their customers are).

abadpoli 2y ago

> AWS ProServe never had a RTO mandate Before Covid, no team had an RTO mandate, so ProServe wasn’t really special here. In ProServe you were still expected to be in an office regularly, but it was just understood that you wouldn’t be in an Amazon office all the time because you’re likely at a client’s office instead. Post-covid, it’s mostly the same, although now even many clients aren’t requiring consultants to come in. But when they do, you’re expected to be there.

scarface_74 2y ago
During the first wave of RTO and hybrid work, ProServe was exempted because it was considered “sales”. I was there then.