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Uh, arrest them when they show up in a country with an extradition treaty? Do you think relatively highly paid individuals don't take foreign vacations? > [1]
by lesuorac 2y ago
Uh, arrest them when they show up in a country with an extradition treaty?
Do you think relatively highly paid individuals don't take foreign vacations?
> [1] That was true for the men released Thursday. Both were arrested on vacation in countries that cooperate with the U.S. Klyushin was arrested in Sion, Switzerland — four people alleged to be co-conspirators remain at large — and Seleznev in Maldives.
[1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/us-releases-russian-hackers-evan-gershkovich-prisoner-swap-rcna164746 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/us-releases-russian-ha...
- edm0nd 2y agoI mean really the arrest warrants or sanctions are just feel good PR for the agencies issuing them to let the public they are "doing something". It's the only thing they can do. For example, they aint ever going to pop a North Korean threat actor bc they simply cant travel at will. They do pop Russians traveling outside of the CIS country region on vacation[1]. >According to Europol, a suspected LockBit ransomware developer was arrested in August 2024 at the request of French authorities while on holiday outside of Russia. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/police-arrest-four-suspects-linked-to-lockbit-ransomware-gang/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/police-arrest... One of my favorite quotes about these hackers in CIS is, "Who cares if you have hundreds of millions of dollars, you are still stuck in Russia or the CIS region for the rest of your life".
- jmwilson 2y ago> they aint ever going to pop a North Korean threat actor bc they simply cant travel at will. True, but the USG has a long memory and holds grudges. Even if they never travel, they have to be confident every future government of the country will have their back. What's the odds the North Korean or Russian regime substantially changes in their lifetimes? Probably higher than the chance a future US administration will stop caring about an outstanding warrant.
- gomerspiles 2y agoMaybe I deceive myself when I think its too early to know if the Marshall plan through Glasnost was the intelligent half of an eternal cycle.
- Scoundreller 2y agoEven if their country has their back, that protection racket can come at a cost. “So and so is looking to arrest you, it would really suck if you got deported or put on this ‘vacation’ to France, wouldn’t it?” Worth paying up, but if you’re willing to pay anything…
- kmeisthax 2y agoBad example: France treats extradition like Japan treats guns.
- Scoundreller 2y agoFrance extradites, just not their own citizens
- chatmasta 2y agoWhat’s CIS?
- alephnerd 2y agoCommonwealth of Independent States - the former Soviet Union
- lupusreal 2y agoRussians get got, but Israelis? I don't see the US government pulling many strings to get them. Malware companies have openly operated in Israel for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_Valley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_Valley How many extraditions of those guys to America from anywhere have there ever been?
- quotz 2y ago[flagged]
- lupusreal 2y agoFor everything from war crimes to child rape, Israel is a safe haven for criminals: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-... And do you ever hear American politicians make a stink about it? Hell no, they're too busy bragging about how they love Israel much more than their opponent.