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copyrights are different from patents.

zeroCalories 2y ago
Copyright, patents, it doesn't matter. It's all IP and our enemies do not respect it. We need to move forward with that reality.
- lionkor 2y ago
  Aren't most of those "enemies" enemies by choice?
- chgs 2y ago
  Trademarks help the user. If I buy a can of brown sludge I want to know it’s sold by the Coca Cola company. If anyone could sell their stuff as “coca cola” that would harm me, the consumer, as it takes information away from me.
- macintux 2y ago
  Patents are explicitly open for anyone to see. I don't know that we need more help there: you can get a product banned from import if someone uses your patent without recompense.
  - namibj 2y ago
    As someone in a place without pure software patents (algorithms can't be patented, but software/hardware combination systems can be), I'm willing to let US users use an overseas hosted instance instead of locally running it. Though keeping US entities from importing copies against US patents isn't really something I could stop.
  - hsbauauvhabzb 2y ago
    *laughs in amazon*
- datadrivenangel 2y ago
  The US used to ignore IP laws when we were an underdog.
  - andrewjl 2y ago
    One colorful anecdote from that period. > In the United Kingdom, he was called "Slater the Traitor" and "Sam the Slate" because he brought British textile technology to the United States, modifying it for American use. He memorized the textile factory machinery designs as an apprentice to a pioneer in the British industry before migrating to the U.S. at the age of 21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater
  - josephg 2y ago
    Do you think China is still an underdog compared to the US? I suspect the only thing that would ever convince China to take IP seriously is if China's own companies would profit more from stronger IP protection.
    - wraptile 2y ago
      China takes IP very seriously domestically when big corporations need protection. A bit of topic but I always found that the only "communist" country is the biggest infringer of copyleft licenses and has neglible open source culture. Shouldn't code be "for the people".
      - immibis 2y ago
        Totalitarian dictatorships are not communism.
        AlbertCory 2y ago
        Point us to a "real" communist country, either existing or in the past.
        2y ago
- marssaxman 2y ago
  Why should they respect it? Software patents are and have always been a bad idea, blatant parasitism. They should never have been established, must never be taken seriously, and ought to be abolished.

Copyright, patents, it doesn't matter. It's all IP and our enemies do not respect it. We need to move forward with that reality.

lionkor 2y ago
Aren't most of those "enemies" enemies by choice?
chgs 2y ago
Trademarks help the user. If I buy a can of brown sludge I want to know it’s sold by the Coca Cola company. If anyone could sell their stuff as “coca cola” that would harm me, the consumer, as it takes information away from me.
macintux 2y ago
Patents are explicitly open for anyone to see. I don't know that we need more help there: you can get a product banned from import if someone uses your patent without recompense.
- namibj 2y ago
  As someone in a place without pure software patents (algorithms can't be patented, but software/hardware combination systems can be), I'm willing to let US users use an overseas hosted instance instead of locally running it. Though keeping US entities from importing copies against US patents isn't really something I could stop.
- hsbauauvhabzb 2y ago
  *laughs in amazon*
datadrivenangel 2y ago
The US used to ignore IP laws when we were an underdog.
- andrewjl 2y ago
  One colorful anecdote from that period. > In the United Kingdom, he was called "Slater the Traitor" and "Sam the Slate" because he brought British textile technology to the United States, modifying it for American use. He memorized the textile factory machinery designs as an apprentice to a pioneer in the British industry before migrating to the U.S. at the age of 21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater
- josephg 2y ago
  Do you think China is still an underdog compared to the US? I suspect the only thing that would ever convince China to take IP seriously is if China's own companies would profit more from stronger IP protection.
  - wraptile 2y ago
    China takes IP very seriously domestically when big corporations need protection. A bit of topic but I always found that the only "communist" country is the biggest infringer of copyleft licenses and has neglible open source culture. Shouldn't code be "for the people".
    - immibis 2y ago
      Totalitarian dictatorships are not communism.
      - AlbertCory 2y ago
        Point us to a "real" communist country, either existing or in the past.
        2y ago
marssaxman 2y ago
Why should they respect it? Software patents are and have always been a bad idea, blatant parasitism. They should never have been established, must never be taken seriously, and ought to be abolished.