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Full disclosure, I'm a YC alum whose last start-up was acquired by Google, who applied to this batch and didn't get an interview. YC is not the stamp of qualit
by dgreensp 2y ago
Full disclosure, I'm a YC alum whose last start-up was acquired by Google, who applied to this batch and didn't get an interview.
YC is not the stamp of quality it once was, to be sure, though it still works as social proof, because investors (especially VCs) want to invest in companies other investors like (or failing that, companies they imagine other investors would like). YC would say that they aren't trying to be a stamp of quality or social proof, they are just trying to help start-ups.
If I had to take a stab at articulating how YC has changed, it's that it's become a VC, picking ideas to generate returns.
This rejection email from 2022 that someone posted online cements the idea for me (excerpted):
"Unfortunately, we've decided not to fund {Company} this batch. We enjoyed our conversation today and were impressed by you as founders building something they are passionate about bringing into being. However we weren't convinced that this product strategy is going to yield a big company in its current form. ...
Of course, things are very early and you are still figuring out the right way to build and structure your business. If you're able to make significant progress with it, we'd be very interested in hearing about it for a future batch."
Original YC would not reject founders over their current product strategy and because they haven't figured out the right way to structure their business--haven't put together the "proof" that they could be on track to be a unicorn, etc. That's a VC rejection. Of course, YC gets many thousands of applications and has to reject most of them. You could say they shouldn't be criticized for trying to give a little feedback.
It's just hard to convey the sense from the early days of YC that they really didn't care about the return, or the progress so far, or VCs, or fads, or anything. That said, I really was at the right place at the right time and got very lucky.
Finally, I want to call out the phenomenon in the world of VC where the ability to generate hype alone is enough to make you and your investors a lot of money, even if there isn't a lot of substance in your company (and even if things are morally or ethically questionable), through the mechanism of greater fools. Cryptocurrency is a whole exploration of this effect, turning hype into money by building a streamlined mechanism for bringing in greater fools, but we can also look at examples like Theranos. (There's actually a ton of money at the top of society looking for somewhere to go, which ideally would be routed to more worthy ventures than it is, but that's a whole topic in itself.) The point is, the greater fool "strat" works. In a moral vacuum, if you are trying to maximize returns, you lean into it.
If I were running a fund like YC with basically unlimited money at my disposal, balancing the goals (strategies?) of 1) make money for money's sake, 2) advance technology for technology's sake (let's go to Mars, etc), and 3) make the world a better place, I would focus on (3). Like can we at least try to build a unicorn that feeds people, and maybe fail, rather than trying to build FooBarBazCoin that eats the word, and failing? We mostly see a mix of (1) and (2).
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- KerryJones 2y agoThis hits pretty dead center from what I've seen. You really hit home for at #3, that's the type of companies I want to see. If you start such a fund, I'd really enjoy working on that project.
- zhaohan_dong 2y agoI'm actually gauging interests. Crowding for immediate return -> Lowering return eventually. Case in point the OG geeks in the valley or quant funds doing those for hobby vs now people go straight to career. Same as Bitcoin was dope in 2012 and lame in 2020. New comers get in mostly for greed not passion. But feels like LP are holding their $$$ for the fed rate to stabilize a bit.
- qq66 2y agoHe won't be starting such a fund for awhile, because the two of us are building company to make technology to foster a creative and curious childhood. We would be a good fit for any investors trying to do (3) though :) https://cartwheelcomputer.com/ https://cartwheelcomputer.com/ amal@cartwheelcomputer.com
- blitzar 2y agoIt does not seem very "viral" or income-generating. I know this is premature at this point, but children don't have much disposable income, is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?
- dartos 2y agoThere are many industries aimed at children(‘s parents) Did their landing page seem like it was talking to children or parents?
- KerryJones 2y agoThis feels like a side tangent, but why have you focused on technology for creative and curious childhood? I.e. Maria Montessori (founder of the Montessori methodology of teaching) did a pretty good job showing that's the natural state of kids, and there's quite a bit in her teachings about the importance of physical things, being outdoors, etc. There's some pretty strong reasoning that technology might in fact be the problem, and while I'm sure you can make better technology with that focus in mind, it seems like a better approach might not be technology. Here's a few articles that lead to this point: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/honestly-its-probably-the-phones https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/honestly-its-probably-the-phon... https://www.henrikkarlsson.xyz/p/childhoods https://www.henrikkarlsson.xyz/p/childhoods