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I think it will be an organoid brain bio-machine. We can already grow organs—just need to grow a brain and connect it to a machine.
by stroupwaffle 2y ago
I think it will be an organoid brain bio-machine. We can already grow organs—just need to grow a brain and connect it to a machine.
- Moosdijk 2y agoThe keyword being “just”.
- ggm 2y agoJust grow, just connect, just sustain, just avoid the many pitfalls. Indeed just is key
- godelski 2y agojust adverb to turn a complex thing into magic with a simple wave of the hands E.g. To turn lead into gold you _just_ need to remove 3 protons
- stroupwaffle 2y agoYou “just” need a more vivid imagination if that’s as far as your comment stretches. I mean seriously, people on here. I’m just spitballing ideas not intended to write some kind of dissertation on brain-machine interaction. That’s Elon musks department.
- Moosdijk 2y agoOkay. The keyword should have been “science fiction”
- idle_zealot 2y agoSomehow I doubt that organic cells (structures optimized for independent operation and reproduction, then adapted to work semi-cooperatively) resemble optimal compute fabric for cognition. By that same token I doubt that optimal compute fabric for cognition resembles GPUs or CPUs as we understand them today. I would expect whatever this efficient design is to be extremely unlikely to occur naturally, structurally, and involve some very exotic manufactured materials.
- godelski 2y agoMaybe that'll be the first way, but there's nothing special about biology. Remember, we don't have a rigorous definition of things like life, intelligence, and consciousness. We are narrowing it down and making progress, but we aren't there (some people confuse this with a "moving goalpost" but of course "it moves", because when we get closer we have better resolution as to what we're trying to figure out. It'd be a "moving goalpost" in the classic sense if we had a well defined definition and then updated in response to make something not work, specifically in a way that is inconsistent with the previous goalpost. As opposed to being more refined)
- stroupwaffle 2y agoThe something special about biology is it uses much less energy than a network of power-hungry graphics cards!
- godelski 2y agoNo one denies that. But there's no magic. The real baffling thing is that people refuse to pick up a neuroscience textbook
- Dylan16807 2y agoIf a brain connected to a machine is "AGI" then we already have a billion AGIs at any given moment.
- stroupwaffle 2y agoWell, I mean to say, not exactly human brains. Consider an extremely large brain modified to add/remove sections to increase its capabilities. They already model neural networks on the human brain, even though they currently use orders of magnitude more energy.
- Dylan16807 2y agoBut modifying a brain to be bigger and better doesn't require much in the way of computers, it's basically a separate topic.