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And will that overtime take into account the effect of time dilation?!

by dools 2y ago

s1artibartfast 2y ago
They are probably salary, not hourly. I wonder if they astronauts are like the military where they get extra on deployment.
- lanewinfield 2y ago
  Salary is set by the year, and with the calculated 6.7 milliseconds of time dilation in the reverse direction (i.e. they will be 6.7ms younger when they arrive), sounds like they should be docked a cent or so.
  - jamesjyu 2y ago
    This brings up an interesting question of salary for near-lightspeed travel. Is it Earth's frame of reference, or the astronauts?
    - dools 2y ago
      You'll have to take that up with HR: Human Relativity.
    - sobellian 2y ago
      Naturally, a firm located in the local frame of reference has a comparative advantage when it comes to employment. Remote work just isn't viable when you can't even agree on simultaneity.
      - pixl97 2y ago
        Dear sir Your packets are too blueshifted for my receiver to decode, please slow down.
      - jamesjyu 2y ago
        Time to deploy trusted AI managers to all reference frames.
    - Majromax 2y ago
      For an extensive discussion of similar issues, see Paul Krugman 1978, "The Theory of Interstellar Trade:" https://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf.
    - EasyMark 2y ago
      Maybe they could pay them in advance, and then put it in a safe growth account of some sort and by the time they get back they’ll never have to work again? Win-win
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  https://www.marketwatch.com/story/boeing-starliner-saga-do-nasa-astronauts-get-overtime-in-space-749516f7 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/boeing-starliner-saga-do-n... claims "[There’s] no hazard pay, there’s no overtime, there’s no comp time". The top two threads on https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/1f0hi3o/how_do_astronauts_get_paid/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/1f0hi3o/how_do_astron... a) suggest a government pay scale with hazard pay for NASA astronauts, b) point out that they are likely paid as active duty Navy members instead. On https://www.facebook.com/AstroClay/posts/do-astronauts-get-paid-more-while-theyre-in-spacethe-short-answer-is-yes-we-do-g/5393967030684551/ https://www.facebook.com/AstroClay/posts/do-astronauts-get-p... an astronaut (verified account of a NASA astronaut) mentions only a small per-diem. https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2264/do-astronauts-qualify-to-be-calculated-for-hazardous-duty-in-their-pay https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2264/do-astronauts... has a lengthy, but inconclusive discussion. ChatGPT 4o-mini generates a vague "it depends" answer with no useful sources or statements that could be used to follow up with actual sources. This is a question where I would have expected an authoritative answer to be easier to find. At least regarding your "like the military" statement, it seems like some astronauts are military, but what kind of extra pay they get seems to be hard to find.

And will that overtime take into account the effect of time dilation?!

by dools 2y ago

And will that overtime take into account the effect of time dilation?!

They are probably salary, not hourly. I wonder if they astronauts are like the military where they get extra on deployment.

lanewinfield 2y ago
Salary is set by the year, and with the calculated 6.7 milliseconds of time dilation in the reverse direction (i.e. they will be 6.7ms younger when they arrive), sounds like they should be docked a cent or so.
- jamesjyu 2y ago
  This brings up an interesting question of salary for near-lightspeed travel. Is it Earth's frame of reference, or the astronauts?
  - dools 2y ago
    You'll have to take that up with HR: Human Relativity.
  - sobellian 2y ago
    Naturally, a firm located in the local frame of reference has a comparative advantage when it comes to employment. Remote work just isn't viable when you can't even agree on simultaneity.
    - pixl97 2y ago
      Dear sir Your packets are too blueshifted for my receiver to decode, please slow down.
    - jamesjyu 2y ago
      Time to deploy trusted AI managers to all reference frames.
  - Majromax 2y ago
    For an extensive discussion of similar issues, see Paul Krugman 1978, "The Theory of Interstellar Trade:" https://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    Maybe they could pay them in advance, and then put it in a safe growth account of some sort and by the time they get back they’ll never have to work again? Win-win
tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/boeing-starliner-saga-do-nasa-astronauts-get-overtime-in-space-749516f7 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/boeing-starliner-saga-do-n... claims "[There’s] no hazard pay, there’s no overtime, there’s no comp time". The top two threads on https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/1f0hi3o/how_do_astronauts_get_paid/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/1f0hi3o/how_do_astron... a) suggest a government pay scale with hazard pay for NASA astronauts, b) point out that they are likely paid as active duty Navy members instead. On https://www.facebook.com/AstroClay/posts/do-astronauts-get-paid-more-while-theyre-in-spacethe-short-answer-is-yes-we-do-g/5393967030684551/ https://www.facebook.com/AstroClay/posts/do-astronauts-get-p... an astronaut (verified account of a NASA astronaut) mentions only a small per-diem. https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2264/do-astronauts-qualify-to-be-calculated-for-hazardous-duty-in-their-pay https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/2264/do-astronauts... has a lengthy, but inconclusive discussion. ChatGPT 4o-mini generates a vague "it depends" answer with no useful sources or statements that could be used to follow up with actual sources. This is a question where I would have expected an authoritative answer to be easier to find. At least regarding your "like the military" statement, it seems like some astronauts are military, but what kind of extra pay they get seems to be hard to find.