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That website had three popups before I could read the article and another one that appeared across the bottom. Two cookie-related popups, and two others. I alm

by bborud 2y ago

That website had three popups before I could read the article and another one that appeared across the bottom. Two cookie-related popups, and two others. I almost lost patience and just closed the tab. And MIT Technology review is kind of something you'd expect to be just a little bit more ... serious? How can this be good design? No, forget that: how is this even acceptable design? Now I will remember the experience for at least a few weeks and avoid clicking on anything that points to that site since I already know it is probably going to be a hassle. Can someone explain the design decisions to me? Oh, and if this comment seems irrelevant to the subject: see what I mean how annoying it is to have to wade through a bunch of nonsense before you get to the bits you actually care about?

tempodox 2y ago
I did lose patience. This site has the most abusive “consent” form available. And they aren't even satisfied with that, they have to use multiple ones.
amelius 2y ago
> Can someone explain the design decisions to me? They are trying to be smart to get rich?
- bborud 2y ago
  Then I don't get it. Just the same way that I don't get Temu. I buy a lot of stuff on Aliexpress. Mostly electronics, odd tools, materials for hobby projects etc. I would think Temu would be interested in my business. But every time I've clicked on a product link there I get this stilly spin-the-wheel nonsense. Which just represents a hurdle I have to get past to order something. After you get that a few times you grow tired of it. So now I never click on Temu links. I go on Aliexpress instead because they'll sell it to me without this whole nonsense. Again, how does this help them make money? Is it a kind of filter that is supposed to repulse people like me and attract people who find this kind of interface attractive? Presumably because they can get more money out of people with certain traits? I don't get it how interposing a lot of nonsense between me and the things I am trying to access or buy is supposed to boost revenue. Can someone explain this to me?
  - cudgy 2y ago
    Maybe because they make so much money from the ads and unsuspecting users that subscribe to a trial and forget to cancel? Maybe because many websites are developed using similar toolsets, permeating antipatterns, and horrible UI models?
Brajeshwar 2y ago
`technologyreview.com` is one of the many sources of my HN submissions. Recently, after I upgraded to macOS Sequoia 15.0, I realized that my current AdBlocker was not working in Safari. This was due to a conflict between AdGuard and Apple iCloud Private Relay. In that short window of a few hours, I realized that the Internet is an unforgiving place to browse without an AdBlocker. As I was on my usual chore of collecting and sharing interesting, weird, and strange finds for Hacker News, I was stunned to see how unusable the browsing experience had become. Of course, I don’t hate ads. It is a legitimate business model. I’m just not too keen with the over-done ads that is everywhere, and in everything. So, I Block Ads. And recently, I wrote an article to remind myself of how life on the Internet is today. https://brajeshwar.com/2024/i-block-ads/ https://brajeshwar.com/2024/i-block-ads/
- latexr 2y ago
  > This was due to a conflict between AdGuard and Apple iCloud Private Relay. Following your post I arrived at this: https://github.com/AdguardTeam/CoreLibs/issues/1914#issuecomment-2371512140 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/CoreLibs/issues/1914#issuecom... You might want to let the developer know that posting on the forums is absolutely not “reporting the problem to Apple”. They need to file a proper bug with Feedback Assistant, and ideally spend one of their two yearly Technical Support Incident (TSI) to get priority, seeing as it’s a paid app.
  - Brajeshwar 2y ago
    I think they are in talks. This had happened with earlier releases of macOS.

by bborud 2y ago

tempodox 2y ago

I did lose patience. This site has the most abusive “consent” form available. And they aren't even satisfied with that, they have to use multiple ones.

amelius 2y ago

> Can someone explain the design decisions to me? They are trying to be smart to get rich?

bborud 2y ago
Then I don't get it. Just the same way that I don't get Temu. I buy a lot of stuff on Aliexpress. Mostly electronics, odd tools, materials for hobby projects etc. I would think Temu would be interested in my business. But every time I've clicked on a product link there I get this stilly spin-the-wheel nonsense. Which just represents a hurdle I have to get past to order something. After you get that a few times you grow tired of it. So now I never click on Temu links. I go on Aliexpress instead because they'll sell it to me without this whole nonsense. Again, how does this help them make money? Is it a kind of filter that is supposed to repulse people like me and attract people who find this kind of interface attractive? Presumably because they can get more money out of people with certain traits? I don't get it how interposing a lot of nonsense between me and the things I am trying to access or buy is supposed to boost revenue. Can someone explain this to me?
- cudgy 2y ago
  Maybe because they make so much money from the ads and unsuspecting users that subscribe to a trial and forget to cancel? Maybe because many websites are developed using similar toolsets, permeating antipatterns, and horrible UI models?

Brajeshwar 2y ago

`technologyreview.com` is one of the many sources of my HN submissions. Recently, after I upgraded to macOS Sequoia 15.0, I realized that my current AdBlocker was not working in Safari. This was due to a conflict between AdGuard and Apple iCloud Private Relay. In that short window of a few hours, I realized that the Internet is an unforgiving place to browse without an AdBlocker. As I was on my usual chore of collecting and sharing interesting, weird, and strange finds for Hacker News, I was stunned to see how unusable the browsing experience had become. Of course, I don’t hate ads. It is a legitimate business model. I’m just not too keen with the over-done ads that is everywhere, and in everything. So, I Block Ads. And recently, I wrote an article to remind myself of how life on the Internet is today. https://brajeshwar.com/2024/i-block-ads/ https://brajeshwar.com/2024/i-block-ads/

latexr 2y ago
> This was due to a conflict between AdGuard and Apple iCloud Private Relay. Following your post I arrived at this: https://github.com/AdguardTeam/CoreLibs/issues/1914#issuecomment-2371512140 https://github.com/AdguardTeam/CoreLibs/issues/1914#issuecom... You might want to let the developer know that posting on the forums is absolutely not “reporting the problem to Apple”. They need to file a proper bug with Feedback Assistant, and ideally spend one of their two yearly Technical Support Incident (TSI) to get priority, seeing as it’s a paid app.
- Brajeshwar 2y ago
  I think they are in talks. This had happened with earlier releases of macOS.