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On the modern internet, you don't need to know who runs it in order to shut it down. They already have a court order to pull down all of the known domains and t
by bityard 2y ago
On the modern internet, you don't need to know who runs it in order to shut it down. They already have a court order to pull down all of the known domains and the registrars have 20 days to comply.
If that doesn't work, many countries have systems in place where copyright holders can tell ISPs not to let their customers access certain links. (Either via blocking DNS requests or null-routing the IP/netblock.)
Serious question: Why aren't Libgen, Annas-Archive, and others operating solely as an onion service on TOR?
- wyre 2y ago> Why aren't Libgen, Annas-Archive, and others operating solely as an onion service on TOR? I’d assume is maximizing access to genpop
- esalman 2y agoTOR comes with it's own baggage.
- wubrr 2y agoThere are obvious workaround for all of the things you mention. > Why aren't Libgen, Annas-Archive, and others operating solely as an onion service on TOR? Probably because that would make it less accessible and more slow.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y agoYou only need a dynamic-DNS system on the hidden service. Then you can avoid the regulatory capture of registrars and host in a friendly country.
- wkat4242 2y agoFor now. Right now DNS blocking is used because it works for 95% of people. Once it doesn't, they'll start demanding more serious means of blocking. I'm surprised that didn't happen yet because DNS blocking is so ineffective. It's basically just akin to removing a business from the phone book or yellow pages.
- popcalc 2y agoAA is purely an indexer, the performance hit would be more felt during the actual downloads.
- bawolff 2y agoWe're are talking about PDFs. A few mb usually. The speed hit of tor is probably fine. Also its a text book. Most users probably find some download latency acceptable. I imagine the real reason is normies dont have tor installed.
- cudgy 2y agoNot a fan of the term “normies” but as a Tor “normie” isn’t Tor traffic identifiable and wouldn’t using it make it easier for authorities to focus on you?
- bawolff 2y agoYes, but in most western juridsictions using tor is acceptable so that is fine. There are ways to disguise traffic (onfuscated bridges) but those are always going to be an arms race.
- franga2000 2y agoThey're not on TOR because normal people aren't on TOR. We've had various ways to distribute files with almost no way of getting caught for decades, but they're all a pain in the ass to use, requiring at the very least a native client program to access, so most people won't ever use them.
- mindslight 2y ago"The Web" requires a native client program to access, yet over time has gained ever wider adoption as "most people" come to see the value and realize it's in their interest to do what it takes to gain access. We need to be evangelizing secure protocols in the same manner, especially as the insecure/centralizing protocols become ever more censored.
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- brailsafe 2y agoThe Web hasn't required anything beyond what's installed for nearly the entirety of my life, and when it wasn't already there, someone would toss a CD at me in the parking lot and I'd be golden
- paulddraper 2y agoYou hang out in unusual parking lots.
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- brailsafe 2y agoTalkin AOL baby! Edit: But admittedly I do hang out in some unusual parking lots.
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- adhamsalama 2y agoThey wouldn't be as accessible to the average user.
- vasco 2y agoDoes TOR still allow anyone to run relay / exit nodes? It's only safe inasmuch as security agencies want to keep using their access when they need to.
- Spivak 2y agoIn this case it's not the privacy you need from ToR but access so it doesn't really matter if the NSA runs the exit nodes because you're not exiting.
- bawolff 2y agoThat's irrelevant if you are talking about hidden services. And mostly irrelavent for clearnet in a world where everything is https.
- naming_the_user 2y agoWhy should they? They are also on tor.
- popcalc 2y agoPost the Anna's Archive tor link and I will send you 5 USDC
- naming_the_user 2y agoIt seems that you are correct, there is none. I thought that they did have one.. perhaps a book mirror only.
- ls612 2y agoChina proved the Great Firewall was possible. It is only a matter of time before every nation builds it for the benefit of their ruling classes.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoWe already see mass censorship of legal speech via centralization and deplatforming, particularly via Cloudflare (which continues to happily host CSAM, animal SAM, and various other genuinely illegal websites). It is the unfortunate reality that the Internet will become various internets.
- barnabyjones 2y agoI don't think that's necessary as app stores are already regional and easy to put additional restrictions on, and desktop internet usage is slowly being overtaken by app usage. And who knows, maybe even Windows 15 will only allow software downloaded through Safe and Verified(tm) app stores.
- chmod775 2y ago> China proved the Great Firewall was possible. Technologically? Maybe. Practically? I'm posting this while using uncensored Internet from within China, and not because I'm going out of my way to evade any blocking. The GFW is more like the government put out an umbrella, but nothing is really forcing anyone to stand under it. Five steps and you're out. No doubt they could change that tomorrow if they so wished, but there are hurdles other than technical ones. In my case I'm simply roaming using my German SIM-card, but plenty of VPNs would work too. They can detect and block these and do with certain ones, but for many they just... don't.
- ls612 2y agoIsn't it the case that foreigners can just apply to be exempted from the GFW? I remember people mentioning that to me online in the 2010s who were semi-long term living in China.
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- _yb2s 2y agoLike when they shut down The Pirate Bay in 2006 (and again every year since)?
- riku_iki 2y ago> Serious question: Why aren't Libgen, Annas-Archive, and others operating solely as an onion service on TOR? I think hosting in country outside of US jurisdiction (Russia?) and being accessed through VPN is more consumer friendly solution.
- faangguyindia 2y agoThey are available over IPFS and you can download their datadump via Torrent
- marcyb5st 2y agoTheir datadump strategy is questionable. You end up needing perhaps 1 book for each shard. I guess they are made by sorting the ISBN or some other numerical field and then grouped until they reach a certain size. It is a bit annoying to put the shard of interest to download in your torrent client, pause it, figure out which book is the one you are after by looking at the ids, instruct your torrent client to only download that book.
- nonninz 2y agoMy understanding was that's meant to be a way "ordinary people" () can contribute to the project by seeding one or more torrents with a part of their archive contents, to try and achieve a sort of "distributed backup", and it's not meant as a way for final users to get that one book they need. () that is, people that can't run a IPFS node or other advanced options due to their limited space/network/skills/money.
- yard2010 2y agoGood luck convincing a russian registrar to comply with US court orders!
- bigbacaloa 2y ago[dead]