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I work at Automattic, owner of WordPress.com. I asked how WordPress.org is funded and will get details on that but I can tell you WordPress.org is not part of

I work at Automattic, owner of WordPress.com. I asked how WordPress.org is funded and will get details on that but I can tell you WordPress.org is not part of the foundation. Open source project and the WordPress trademark are owned the WordPress Foundation. WordPress.org has a license to use the name from the Foundation, as does Automattic.

swores 2y ago
The WordPress Foundation links to wordpress.org as the official site for their project called WordPress, and wordpress.org directs donors to donate at wordpressfoundation.org so it's hard to see how you could be right, but if you can come back explaining that then I'll happily admit to having been confused by it all.
- batuhanicoz 2y ago
  Projects page of the Foundation (https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/) does not say those projects belong to the Foundation. It states: > Matt Mullenweg, the director of the WordPress Foundation, has been directly involved in the creation of, or coordination of volunteers around, a number of WordPress projects that espouse the core philosophy I'll admit this might sound confusing. Foundation came years after some of these projects were already established.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    If https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ had a page titled "Projects" that listed "death camps" as the first item, you would assume they're up to something, right?
  - KomoD 2y ago
    They do link to wordpress.org outside of that. https://wordpressfoundation.org/contact/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/contact/ says "a violation of our domain policy." and links to wordpress.org, why would their domain policy be on a site that isn't theirs? And then wordpress.org says "For various reasons related to our WordPress trademark", how can wordpress.org say "our" if the foundation owns the WordPress trademark and .org is not run by the foundation? > Projects page of the Foundation (https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/) does not say those projects belong to the Foundation. It states: But their site does say that money raised will be "used to ensure free access to supported software projects, protect the WordPress trademark, and fund a variety of programs." and links to the projects page that contains wordpress.org... but you said it isn't funded by the donations from the foundation
  - danillonunes 2y ago
    Ironic how this whole thing started with an allegation that WP Engine makes things confusing. I wonder if Matt's mom can tell the difference between WordPress Foundation and WordPress.org.
slyall 2y ago
So you have: Wordpress.org which is directly controlled by Matt Mullenweg Automattic (ie wordpress.com) whose CEO is Matt Mullenweg and The WordPress Foundation which is run by (checks notes) Matt Mullenweg Yet you seem to think we should treat all three of those entities (Matts?) as separate and independant
- poincaredisk 2y ago
  We should expect the non profit foundation to be independent from the for profit company, yes.
- jaakl 2y ago
  In short: wordpress.org is just a personal homepage of Matt Mullenweg, not legally or financially related to neither Foundation nor Automattic? There could be technical relations but who has not "forgotten" your personal homepage to your employee's machine, just a honest mistake.

swores 2y ago

The WordPress Foundation links to wordpress.org as the official site for their project called WordPress, and wordpress.org directs donors to donate at wordpressfoundation.org so it's hard to see how you could be right, but if you can come back explaining that then I'll happily admit to having been confused by it all.

batuhanicoz 2y ago
Projects page of the Foundation (https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/) does not say those projects belong to the Foundation. It states: > Matt Mullenweg, the director of the WordPress Foundation, has been directly involved in the creation of, or coordination of volunteers around, a number of WordPress projects that espouse the core philosophy I'll admit this might sound confusing. Foundation came years after some of these projects were already established.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  If https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ had a page titled "Projects" that listed "death camps" as the first item, you would assume they're up to something, right?
- KomoD 2y ago
  They do link to wordpress.org outside of that. https://wordpressfoundation.org/contact/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/contact/ says "a violation of our domain policy." and links to wordpress.org, why would their domain policy be on a site that isn't theirs? And then wordpress.org says "For various reasons related to our WordPress trademark", how can wordpress.org say "our" if the foundation owns the WordPress trademark and .org is not run by the foundation? > Projects page of the Foundation (https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/ https://wordpressfoundation.org/projects/) does not say those projects belong to the Foundation. It states: But their site does say that money raised will be "used to ensure free access to supported software projects, protect the WordPress trademark, and fund a variety of programs." and links to the projects page that contains wordpress.org... but you said it isn't funded by the donations from the foundation
- danillonunes 2y ago
  Ironic how this whole thing started with an allegation that WP Engine makes things confusing. I wonder if Matt's mom can tell the difference between WordPress Foundation and WordPress.org.

slyall 2y ago

So you have: Wordpress.org which is directly controlled by Matt Mullenweg Automattic (ie wordpress.com) whose CEO is Matt Mullenweg and The WordPress Foundation which is run by (checks notes) Matt Mullenweg Yet you seem to think we should treat all three of those entities (Matts?) as separate and independant

poincaredisk 2y ago
We should expect the non profit foundation to be independent from the for profit company, yes.
jaakl 2y ago
In short: wordpress.org is just a personal homepage of Matt Mullenweg, not legally or financially related to neither Foundation nor Automattic? There could be technical relations but who has not "forgotten" your personal homepage to your employee's machine, just a honest mistake.