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Yep, Matt (wordpress guy) has a dramatic writing style, but in essence WPE is using plugins, their security research, user system, theming store etc, without co

Yep, Matt (wordpress guy) has a dramatic writing style, but in essence WPE is using plugins, their security research, user system, theming store etc, without contributing back that much. Worth adding that WPE is owned by private equity, and they allegedly tried to remove the newsfeed from wp-admin to hide his (dramatic) posts about them

tbyehl 2y ago
> Worth adding that WPE is owned by private equity How do you think Matt got the money to build his empire?
dncornholio 2y ago
My company is also a heavy user of WordPress and never have contributed. We also hide those widgets. Do we need to be blocked as well then?
- Arnt 2y ago
  Open source is a gift. There's etiquette involved. Suppose one of your developers writes on twitter that you don't permit contribution, and you fire that developer on the next day. What reaction do you expect from the people who pay for most of the development?
  - cldellow 2y ago
    I keep seeing people refer to this tweet. Can you share a link to it, please?
    - Arnt 2y ago
      I'm afraid not. I look at twitter only in incognito mode and don't have any history, and can't find anything now.
- batuhanicoz 2y ago
  Hiding the widgets isn't the main issue. If you infringe the WordPress trademark in commercial use, and ignore any attempt to make it right, and pursue legal action, W.ORG does not have to provide those free services to you. I'm guessing you are not size of WP Engine and Silver Lake, honest question, if you were, would you want to contribute back to WordPress?
- manuelmoreale 2y ago
  Does your company offer a competitor to what Automattic is offering, taking revenues from them, and make 500+ millions in revenues a year? If the answer to those is yes then I’d probably keep quiet before Matt notices you :)
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    That is a really problematic question to ask. Because remember, Automattic is not the Foundation or the open source project... so then the question becomes "Why is the Foundation/project hamstringing a competitor to their director's for profit company who is, in theory, and legally should be, independent?"
- austhrow743 2y ago
  Seems like you should act as if you will be.
- rglullis 2y ago
  Is your company building a business with half a billion of dollars in revenue out the uncountable amount of man-hours put into Wordpress development?
  - dncornholio 2y ago
    We probably made a lot more then that in the past 20 years.
    - rglullis 2y ago
      We are talking about yearly revenues here, and something tells me that your company is not in the business of selling services that depend on WordPress code being developed
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tbyehl 2y ago

> Worth adding that WPE is owned by private equity How do you think Matt got the money to build his empire?

dncornholio 2y ago

My company is also a heavy user of WordPress and never have contributed. We also hide those widgets. Do we need to be blocked as well then?

Arnt 2y ago
Open source is a gift. There's etiquette involved. Suppose one of your developers writes on twitter that you don't permit contribution, and you fire that developer on the next day. What reaction do you expect from the people who pay for most of the development?
- cldellow 2y ago
  I keep seeing people refer to this tweet. Can you share a link to it, please?
  - Arnt 2y ago
    I'm afraid not. I look at twitter only in incognito mode and don't have any history, and can't find anything now.
batuhanicoz 2y ago
Hiding the widgets isn't the main issue. If you infringe the WordPress trademark in commercial use, and ignore any attempt to make it right, and pursue legal action, W.ORG does not have to provide those free services to you. I'm guessing you are not size of WP Engine and Silver Lake, honest question, if you were, would you want to contribute back to WordPress?
manuelmoreale 2y ago
Does your company offer a competitor to what Automattic is offering, taking revenues from them, and make 500+ millions in revenues a year? If the answer to those is yes then I’d probably keep quiet before Matt notices you :)
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  That is a really problematic question to ask. Because remember, Automattic is not the Foundation or the open source project... so then the question becomes "Why is the Foundation/project hamstringing a competitor to their director's for profit company who is, in theory, and legally should be, independent?"
austhrow743 2y ago
Seems like you should act as if you will be.
rglullis 2y ago
Is your company building a business with half a billion of dollars in revenue out the uncountable amount of man-hours put into Wordpress development?
- dncornholio 2y ago
  We probably made a lot more then that in the past 20 years.
  - rglullis 2y ago
    We are talking about yearly revenues here, and something tells me that your company is not in the business of selling services that depend on WordPress code being developed
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