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Proof once again that justice at its highest levels in the US is to punish the poor and middle class and slap the rich on their wrists. There are people who hav

Proof once again that justice at its highest levels in the US is to punish the poor and middle class and slap the rich on their wrists. There are people who have stolen food to eat who have gotten harsher punishments.

jdminhbg 2y ago
> There are people who have stolen food to eat who have gotten harsher punishments. Are there?
- PlunderBunny 2y ago
  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-03-me-38444-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-03-me-38444-...
  - jdminhbg 2y ago
    > He and a friend, prosecutors would contend, somewhat intoxicated and possibly playing a game of “truth or dare,” approached four youngsters dining on an extra-large pepperoni pizza. Not defending three strikes laws from thirty years ago which have since been repealed anyway, but this was not someone "stealing to eat."
    - fUCp62 2y ago
      > possibly playing a game of "truth or dare" (Also not defending these laws/the decision there, but) I'm not sure why this is phrased as merely an allegation by the prosecution, since this is what transpired even by his own account. "One Friday he and some friends were hanging out on the pier on Redondo Beach. He claims he was "playing a stupid game of truth-or-dare with a friend" when he approached a group of kids whose parents had left them eating pizza at an outdoor table and asked them for a slice." https://web.archive.org/web/20230408113219/https://www.smh.com.au/world/a-slice-of-pizza-and-a-oneway-ticket-to-the-big-house-the-threestrikes-law-20140523-38u7q.html https://web.archive.org/web/20230408113219/https://www.smh.c...
- kayodelycaon 2y ago
  You can get life in prison for three non-violent convictions of selling LSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_L._Tyler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_L._Tyler
bilbo0s 2y ago
To be fair, poverty builds character. So applying our "Tough On (the poor who commit) Crime" logic: if even poverty was unable to prevent that person from stealing food when hungry then they are clearly irredeemable. /s
onemoresoop 2y ago
Yes, but you have to keep in mind that she made a deal to get this lighter sentence, she was a star witness and testified against Sam Bankman-Fried. Deals aren't necessarily for rich or poor, it's just a way for prosecution to accomplish their mission. She didn't get away scot-free, two years isn't the lightest sentence possible. Though she probably did have a good lawyer poor people could never afford... And keep in mind that she wasn't the mastermind, she was just dumb and easily manipulated...
- hilux 2y ago
  Dumb? All these people, ONCE THEY'RE CAUGHT, want us to believe that they're dumb. Her parents are both MIT Professors. She was on the US team(!) for the International Linguistic Olympiad. She won all sorts of academic contests before getting a Math degree from Stanford. She was CEO of Alameda Research. And now we're supposed to believe she was a "dumb" naive waif, manipulated and preyed upon by SBF, that evil manipulative shark?!

jdminhbg 2y ago

> There are people who have stolen food to eat who have gotten harsher punishments. Are there?

PlunderBunny 2y ago
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-03-me-38444-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-03-me-38444-...
- jdminhbg 2y ago
  > He and a friend, prosecutors would contend, somewhat intoxicated and possibly playing a game of “truth or dare,” approached four youngsters dining on an extra-large pepperoni pizza. Not defending three strikes laws from thirty years ago which have since been repealed anyway, but this was not someone "stealing to eat."
  - fUCp62 2y ago
    > possibly playing a game of "truth or dare" (Also not defending these laws/the decision there, but) I'm not sure why this is phrased as merely an allegation by the prosecution, since this is what transpired even by his own account. "One Friday he and some friends were hanging out on the pier on Redondo Beach. He claims he was "playing a stupid game of truth-or-dare with a friend" when he approached a group of kids whose parents had left them eating pizza at an outdoor table and asked them for a slice." https://web.archive.org/web/20230408113219/https://www.smh.com.au/world/a-slice-of-pizza-and-a-oneway-ticket-to-the-big-house-the-threestrikes-law-20140523-38u7q.html https://web.archive.org/web/20230408113219/https://www.smh.c...
kayodelycaon 2y ago
You can get life in prison for three non-violent convictions of selling LSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_L._Tyler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_L._Tyler

bilbo0s 2y ago

To be fair, poverty builds character. So applying our "Tough On (the poor who commit) Crime" logic: if even poverty was unable to prevent that person from stealing food when hungry then they are clearly irredeemable. /s

onemoresoop 2y ago

Yes, but you have to keep in mind that she made a deal to get this lighter sentence, she was a star witness and testified against Sam Bankman-Fried. Deals aren't necessarily for rich or poor, it's just a way for prosecution to accomplish their mission. She didn't get away scot-free, two years isn't the lightest sentence possible. Though she probably did have a good lawyer poor people could never afford... And keep in mind that she wasn't the mastermind, she was just dumb and easily manipulated...

hilux 2y ago
Dumb? All these people, ONCE THEY'RE CAUGHT, want us to believe that they're dumb. Her parents are both MIT Professors. She was on the US team(!) for the International Linguistic Olympiad. She won all sorts of academic contests before getting a Math degree from Stanford. She was CEO of Alameda Research. And now we're supposed to believe she was a "dumb" naive waif, manipulated and preyed upon by SBF, that evil manipulative shark?!